New circuit to detached shed/garage in garden.

[Jjc]

Hello I am new to this forum and need a little help from an experienced spark to help me design a circuit to wire a detached garage (two sockets and ceiling lights) from a house ring main to 18th edition standards. This will be notifiable so everything has to be pukka. Cable can be in steel trunking or armored but prefer steel trunking option. I do know the basics but as this is my first outbuilding wiring I would really appreciate some pointers. My idea is to replace a socket in the house to a switched 13 A FCU drill through wall to outside and use steel trunking buried under garden slabs to garage wall. Drill through garage wall and connect cable to an RCD (thinking that a mini CU is overkill) as the house CU doesn't have RCD protection. At this point not sure of best option to split garage supply to sockets and 3 amp protected lighting..... Thanks for your help.

If you are going to tap of the existing ring then I would quote for LED lights. Give them more to play with on the socket front.

 

[Jjc]

Hello I am new to this forum and need a little help from an experienced spark to help me design a circuit to wire a detached garage (two sockets and ceiling lights) from a house ring main to 18th edition standards. This will be notifiable so everything has to be pukka. Cable can be in steel trunking or armored but prefer steel trunking option. I do know the basics but as this is my first outbuilding wiring I would really appreciate some pointers. My idea is to replace a socket in the house to a switched 13 A FCU drill through wall to outside and use steel trunking buried under garden slabs to garage wall. Drill through garage wall and connect cable to an RCD (thinking that a mini CU is overkill) as the house CU doesn't have RCD protection. At this point not sure of best option to split garage supply to sockets and 3 amp protected lighting..... Thanks for your help.

If you are going to tap of the existing ring then I would quote for LED lights. Give them more to play with on the socket front.

My 2 pennies worth ......... you are critical that people aren't jumping to give you step by step guides BUT remember, you could be bidding for work and the customer could be on here asking for advice on how to do it DIY ...... would you be handing out step by step advice to them?

Most of these forums are over run by chancers / DIYers and to say the least so of the "advice" is dubious to say the least.

My final advice is make sure your quote and invoice clearly state the design limit of the circuit .................so the customer can't haul you back in later to ask why he can't run a kiln in there without blowing the fuse!

this forum is ----, unbelievable dangerous talk, electrical work is for qualified electricians only.

 

[Spoon]

this forum is ****, unbelievable dangerous talk, electrical work is for qualified electricians only.

I am just starting out and should have mentioned this at the outset. I am also newly registered with a competent person scheme. Qualifications. Part P. 18th edition. level 3 inspection and testing. 15 years self employed builder. Masters in Building crafts.

What do you class as a 'qualified electrician' mate? The above?
If not then what?
Do I have to call a 'qualified electrician' to change a light switch?

 

[Charlie_]

Based on his current level of expertise as an electrician, he can’t have been a very good builder

 

[DPG]

this forum is ****, unbelievable dangerous talk, electrical work is for qualified electricians only.

Thanks for your helpful input. You remind me of Shakespeare with your usage of words

 

[Charlie_]

Thanks for your helpful input. You remind me of Shakespeare with your usage of words

‘His wit’s as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard’

 

[Jjc]

What do you class as a 'qualified electrician' mate? The above?
If not then what?
Do I have to call a 'qualified electrician' to change a light switch?

non ofthem are qualifications, part p , any monkey can achieve that

What do you class as a 'qualified electrician' mate? The above?
If not then what?
Do I have to call a 'qualified electrician' to change a light switch?

None of the above. The only proper qualification is through an apprenticeship. So you think that changing a lightswitch requires no skill, knowledge or awareness of danger

 

[Spoon]

None of the above. The only proper qualification is through an apprenticeship.

Thanks for clearing that. I didn't do an apprenticeship, so therefore I'm not a 'qualified electrician'..

So you think that changing a lightswitch requires no skill, knowledge or awareness of danger

Please point out where I said that mate. You can twist words if you like.
IMO changing a light switch does not need a 'qualified electrician'.
I'm fine at changing a light switch, but, according to you, I'm not a 'qualified electrician'.

 

[Jjc]

Thanks for clearing that. I didn't do an apprenticeship, so therefore I'm not a 'qualified electrician'..



Please point out where I said that mate. You can twist words if you like.
IMO changing a light switch does not need a 'qualified electrician'.
I'm fine at changing a light switch, but, according to you, I'm not a 'qualified electrician'.

 

[Jjc]

Thanks for clearing that. I didn't do an apprenticeship, so therefore I'm not a 'qualified electrician'..



Please point out where I said that mate. You can twist words if you like.
IMO changing a light switch does not need a 'qualified electrician'.
I'm fine at changing a light switch, but, according to you, I'm not a 'qualified electrician'.

What does fine at changing a lightswitch mean? That doesn't mean you are a qualified electrician

 

[DPG]

So, Jjc, would you advise someone to get an electrician in to change a 13A plug?

Would you never do any work on your car, but always take it to an apprentice trained mechanic?

Some jobs are perfectly doable by a sensible person who knows their limits.

 

[Charlie_]

I personally found learning to drive and passing my driving test more difficult than becoming a qualified electrician.

 

[Jjc]

So, Jjc, would you advise someone to get an electrician in to change a 13A plug?

Would you never do any work on your car, but always take it to an apprentice trained mechanic?

Some jobs are perfectly doable by a sensible person who knows their limits.

 

[DPG]

Come on Jjc, hit the reply button and type!

 

[Charlie_]

We had to start using metal consumer units due to the amount of ‘qualified electricians’ that can’t even do the basics