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When wiring for down lighters on new builds, extensions and the like when no chasing etc is involved I prefer to feed the switch instead of having 4 cables at the first down light.
 
Twin and earths in and out of light switches, pendants?
We are 15 years into the 21st century!
Leds Controlled via DALI switches and drivers is the way forward!
Also why not have the Central Heating, entertainment system, etc controlled by smart technology
 
ours are a diy set that overhang front and back of a transit and sway a good meter side to side at the top and they will collapse on themselfs as there old and starting to show there age

This post will ensure your customers' barrister has an easy 20 minute show,at their compensation hearing...:joker::joker:
 
ours are a diy set that overhang front and back of a transit and sway a good meter side to side at the top and they will collapse on themselfs as there old and starting to show there age

So you have been provided with access equipment which is in a poor state of repair and unfit for continued service? Have you formally reported this to the necessary people?
 
Who said anything about domestic? After that there are high ceilings, stairwell lights and general poor placing...fall from a small height is still enough to cause injury and damage

And cant see why 3x1mm cables in a 1g box is any worse than 3x2.5mm in a 1g box for a spur either

3 cables will be the minimum, and their aren't any connectors in a socket back box with a spur!! It's starts getting to the point of ridiculous when you need to accommodate several switch lines and their chases/capping etc, for multi gang switches and/or 2 way and intermediates.....

If you need a neutral at a switch position for any reason or just to future proof then just run a 3 core + E to the switches, but switch looping, ...Nah!!!

All this cobblers about needing 4 hands to connect a 3 plate system at a ceiling point just doesn't wash, electricians have been making such connections in their stride for donkey's years without any help whatsoever!!

As i say, if you're daft enough to install or retain a light point at the highest point over a stairwell in a domestic (and this thread ''IS'' about a domestic installation) then more fool you!!
 
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Twin and earths in and out of light switches, pendants?
We are 15 years into the 21st century!
Leds Controlled via DALI switches and drivers is the way forward!
Also why not have the Central Heating, entertainment system, etc controlled by smart technology



And what fraction of rewire work that you do, or more importantly others will do, will contain any of that smart technology?? Most rewire work will be basic rewires with additional lighting and power points. Your smart technology is still far too expensive for the average punter, and frankly not as reliable as it should be either, especially for the overall costs of these systems....
 
And what fraction of rewire work that you do, or more importantly others will do, will contain any of that smart technology?? Most rewire work will be basic rewires with additional lighting and power points. Your smart technology is still far too expensive for the average punter, and frankly not as reliable as it should be either, especially for the overall costs of these systems....

The guy asked for some ideas for his own home..
what better opportunity to try out new technology.
done right it is the best way to do things
 
The guy asked for some ideas for his own home..
what better opportunity to try out new technology.
done right it is the best way to do things

Yeah, and then can be totally stuffed when the system or systems go belly up a couple of years or so down the road, and then can't get replacements because the companies gone into liquidation!! lol!!
 
we usually go higher than this, our steps extend to over 6m up (tripple extender)

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your arse gets twitchy when your near the top and it starts to sway

I worked in a factory putting a PA system in for a fortnight. The cables were run in the perlins down the center of the A frame roof. I was on 3m triples but opened into an A frame with the third set extended right up (like an upside down Y) To reach the roof i had to be stood forth rung from the top.

It was awful.
 
I worked in a factory putting a PA system in for a fortnight. The cables were run in the perlins down the center of the A frame roof. I was on 3m triples but opened into an A frame with the third set extended right up (like an upside down Y) To reach the roof i had to be stood forth rung from the top.

It was awful.
that's not fun, i refuse to use that set we have as an A-frame unless i have someone footing it and tied the brace. (it pops out sometimes)


i will happily use them fully extended as a ladder but not as an A-frame well technicallly an upside down Y frame
 
That was my agreement.... not much you can do when you look round and see your 'footer' stood by the window on his blower! iirc thats the only time i have ever feigned sickness and it got my nowhere because the job was just put on hold till i was well again!

Ahh the joys of being the company bitch. I don't miss it for one second!
 

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