New kitchen does it need own fusebox or change just the mains fusebox?

[Ell4848]

New kitchen will be installed. Do we need to rewire the kitchen? The fusebox we have is ancient and our electrician has recommended to rewire kitchen then have a consumer unit just for the kitchen electrics as he said things may trip because our consumer unit is old but my builder who covers all of this said we can change the main fusebox in the house and he's included first fix electrics in his quote


We are not changing too much when it comes to the electrics, some advice would be very much appreciated

We will be replacing the kitchen light fixture that is already there(ceiling) and replacing with something similar.

The washing machine will need a new socket installed ( double socket) and plumbing as its being moved completely to the opposite side of the kitchen where it is now

Fridge is staying in same location

The gas cooker will be moved approximately 50-60cm to the left of its current location and the new gas cooker will have an electric grill inside, the previous one was all gas (new cooker will have double gas oven with electric grill)

We would want to replace all socket covers currently there as well for aesthetics
Thank you in advance

 

[Ell4848]

Can a plug socket (not hardwired) be at the back of a fridge freezer, providing there is an isolation switch. Im going to ask my electrician but wanted to ask here too

 

[DPG]

Can a plug socket (not hardwired) be at the back of a fridge freezer, providing there is an isolation switch. Im going to ask my electrician but wanted to ask here too

What do you mean by not hard wired? Do you mean an extension cable that is plugged into a different socket somewhere?

Better to have a 'proper' fixed socket while the wiring is being redone.

 

[Ell4848]

What do you mean by not hard wired? Do you mean an extension cable that is plugged into a different socket somewhere?

Better to have a 'proper' fixed socket while the wiring is being redone.

Its a standard 3 pin socket behind the fridge

 

[DPG]

Its a standard 3 pin socket behind the fridge

Yes a standard socket can be fitted behind a fridge. This is very common.

 

[Ell4848]

Yes a standard socket can be fitted behind a fridge. This is very common.

But with an isolation switch
I've read a plug socket behind the fridge (and this is a third up from the base of the bridge) is dangerous. Because of heat and leaks? That's what I read
But we have an isolation switch

 

[pc1966]

It is quite common in Scotland where the building regulations specify that "white goods" should have an accessible means of isolation to have an un-switched 13A socket behind the fridge/washing machine/etc and then a 20A switch above the worktop area so you can switch it off without having the move it.

EDIT: By "quite common" I mean in newer kitchens wired by an electrician.

 

[ipf]

But with an isolation switch
I've read a plug socket behind the fridge (and this is a third up from the base of the bridge) is dangerous. Because of heat and leaks? That's what I read
But we have an isolation switch

Plenty bull***t around.......and not just on the internet.
Read and take in #112 and #120. Get the electrician to explain his intentions instead of faffing about and, seemingly, getting nowhere.

 

[Ell4848]

Plenty bull***t around.......and not just on the internet.
Read and take in #112 and #120. Get the electrician to explain his intentions instead of faffing about and, seemingly, getting nowhere.

Oh so our electrician completed 2nd fix today and installed plug sockets. He put a plug socket behind the cooker about a 3rd in from the ground amd and isolation switch on the wall to the left. I thought it would be hard wired. Is this safe? Its a double gas oven with option for electric grill inside

I spoke to my electrician and he explained its safe but I didnt understand the terms he used

 

[Ell4848]

Oh so our electrician completed 2nd fix today and installed plug sockets. He put a plug socket behind the cooker about a 3rd in from the ground amd and isolation switch on the wall to the left. I thought it would be hard wired. Is this safe? Its a double gas oven with option for electric grill inside

I spoke to my electrician and he explained its safe but I didnt understand the terms he used

The heat won't melt the plug?

 

[littlespark]

You say “option” for an electric grill? Is it there or not?
Otherwise, the electric is just for an igniter or clock. Hardly any load.
Even with a grill, that’s only maybe 2800W. Fine on a plug, IF the appliance came with a plug fitted. If not, would have put into a connection plate.

Should still be on its own circuit at over 2kW not just off the general sockets ring.

 

[Ell4848]

You say “option” for an electric grill? Is it there or not?
Otherwise, the electric is just for an igniter or clock. Hardly any load.
Even with a grill, that’s only maybe 2800W. Fine on a plug, IF the appliance came with a plug fitted. If not, would have put into a connection plate.

Should still be on its own circuit at over 2kW not just off the general sockets ring.

Its the belling 60g cookcentre its 2 gas and an electric grill so basically you can use the 2nd oven as a grill

 

[Ell4848]

Its the belling 60g cookcentre its 2 gas and an electric grill so basically you can use the 2nd oven as a grill

You say “option” for an electric grill? Is it there or not?
Otherwise, the electric is just for an igniter or clock. Hardly any load.
Even with a grill, that’s only maybe 2800W. Fine on a plug, IF the appliance came with a plug fitted. If not, would have put into a connection plate.

Should still be on its own circuit at over 2kW not just off the general sockets ring.

It came with a plug and we have our own fusebox just for the new electrics in the kitchen

 

[ipf]

Oh so our electrician completed 2nd fix today and installed plug sockets. He put a plug socket behind the cooker about a 3rd in from the ground amd and isolation switch on the wall to the left. I thought it would be hard wired. Is this safe? Its a double gas oven with option for electric grill inside

I spoke to my electrician and he explained its safe but I didnt understand the terms he used

I give up!

 

[nicebutdim]

The heat won't melt the plug?

Nothing in the description of works carried out raises cause for concern.

 

[Grant1987]

It came with a plug and we have our own fusebox just for the new electrics in the kitchen

The electrician has done a good job and from what you’ve explained on here raises no issue to concern. I really don’t understand what you’re problem is with the electrician. You’re looking for faults on here but absolutely nothing wrong with the install pay him up