UK New timed fan isolator and switch... but lighting circuit is via

[Christophyfryfle]

Simple replacement of an old noisy fan. Should have been rip the old one out, put the new one in. Only change is the new fan has a timer overrun which was chosen due to the old tenants leaving it in for so long it eventually went bust. The old fan didn't have a timer.

Anyway... I've got the new fan and isolator in place, went to replace the twin core with 3 core... and that is when I found the rose was replaced with Quickwire a few years ago. I've been given a few (bit Heath Robinson) solutions of sorts on one forum, which if it wasn't in a Part P location would be fine, but mmmm not sure about bathrooms. And on another electrician forum on Reddit, I only got sarcastic comments back, and one solution that would definitely fail inspection. So third time lucky.

Has anyone come up with a solution to this that would be acceptable in regards to Part P? Short summary: 3 core and earth from isolator switch to Quickwire, which is only twin core. Thanks in advance!

 

[UNG]

I appreciate that but you're missing the point. It isn't the brand that was the problem, In any other scenario I could quite easily have gone for WAGO or another brand, even an old school junction box (well, actually not. The first problem was (and still is) the location.

All the wiring for the bathroom runs under the floor - not floorboards, floor. And is concreted in in some places, plastered behind six inches of plaster in others. The only bare bits are the ends where there would have been a junction box or a switch the junction box (or ceiling rose, nothing would surprise me) for the bathroom. Whoever came in was presumably told by the then owner they couldn't afford a full rewire so did the best they could in the limited space and limited budget. And went for Quickwire.

Quickwire - and there are others on the market - connect all three wires into their system. Their USP is you don't need to sleeve any cabling, as the gubbins inside does all the wiring. Given the location, previous electrician opted for Quickwire. Which does the job perfectly. As long as the fan doesn't need a timer overrun.new homeowner moved in, wanted the forty year old extractor that has a pull cord on/off ripped out, and a new one with a timer overrun. Didn't even know about the wiring or Quickwire, because they only bought the house recently.

Most of the answers ignored the location issue and offered the usual lazy suggestions - use another brand, chop it up, argue with the homeowner. Which clearly showed they didn't read the original question properly. And what you say about branding is nonsense if you're out on a customers property. You are somewhat governed by what is already in place, what the customer wants and what is practical (and compliant) for that location and installation.

Finally a short sharp word with some of the tradespeople on here, you don't dictatcte to customers what they want. They tell you. If you're a car mechanic and a customer turns up with a Ford that has a faulty clutch, you won't stay long in business if your response is to sniff, and say "well, shouldn't have bought a ford then", or "I can jam in one off a Peugeot see how that works...". If you heard a car mechanic talk like that, you'd take your business elsewhere. They're clearly not as good at their job as they think they are.

You are clearly a TROLL and are IMO deliberately trying to provoke an unnecessary response from the members on here with your original question and responses. TBH when you started this thread it sounded like a quickwire employee trying to advertise the product rather than someone trying to solve a problem