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Im also considering the Full Scope Electrician course that NewtradesCareer are offering.<br />
Ive got a bit more information from them as to what qualifications you complete with.<br />
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C&G 2393 (part p)<br />
C&G 2382 18th edition IET Wiring Regulations<br />
Part P full scope<br />
C&G 2392 fundamental inspection<br />
C&G 2365 Level 2 and 3 diploma in electrical installations<br />
C&G 2391 level 3 in inspection and testing<br />
AM2 Qualification<br />
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For these qualifications they are asking for £7740<br />
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With this you learn at your own pace from home with 9 weeks of in-centre practical training and assessment.<br />
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Im also intrested in any feedback about this company and wether this is good value ?
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My personal opinion...paying a lot of money out for some training gets you some qualifications but please remember on site training/experience is worth more.<br />
9 weeks in center experience does not give you any real world life experience</div>
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My personal opinion...paying a lot of money out for some training gets you some qualifications but please remember on site training/experience is worth more.<br />
9 weeks in center experience does not give you any real world life experience
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</blockquote>As I have said before, this course is designed for people who already work full time in completely different fields and are looking to make a change but can’t afford to stop working, hence, the theory is done in your own time and weeks are done when you can book weeks off work. You are completely correct in that real world experience really does make the difference and I have seen how different the electricians mates are to the office workers, so to speak, when it came to the practical tests due to their on site experience...</div>
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As I have said before, this course is designed for people who already work full time in completely different fields and are looking to make a change but can’t afford to stop working, hence, the theory is done in your own time and weeks are done when you can book weeks off work. You are completely correct in that real world experience really does make the difference and I have seen how different the electricians mates are to the office workers, so to speak, when it came to the practical tests due to their on site experience...
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</blockquote>Are you working as a sparky now then?</div>
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Are you working as a sparky now then?
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</blockquote>I am Dan on a part time, private friends and family only at the moment as I still have a full time job elsewhere outside the industry. I do my work to regs and test/certify it etc. As previous members have pointed out, it’s the hands on experience that teaches you so much more. I’m also get more efficient at the simpler tasks.<br />
This forum has been an immense source of information too, especially when it comes to the various anomalies that we seem to come across and how to solve them!!</div>
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Im also considering the Full Scope Electrician course that NewtradesCareer are offering.<br />
Ive got a bit more information from them as to what qualifications you complete with.<br />
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C&G 2393 (part p)<br />
C&G 2382 18th edition IET Wiring Regulations<br />
Part P full scope<br />
C&G 2392 fundamental inspection<br />
C&G 2365 Level 2 and 3 diploma in electrical installations<br />
C&G 2391 level 3 in inspection and testing<br />
AM2 Qualification<br />
<br />
For these qualifications they are asking for £7740<br />
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With this you learn at your own pace from home with 9 weeks of in-centre practical training and assessment.<br />
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Im also intrested in any feedback about this company and wether this is good value ?
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Part P means little in the world of becoming a spark.<br />
18th Edition should in theory be covered by the core qualifications ie 2365 2 & 3.<br />
Inspection and Testing is only worth having once you become a competent spark.<br />
AM2 if the final leg of becoming a spark but you need an NVQ to go with this and the core qualifications to become a spark.<br />
Also I think you need to do bridging units to link 2365 2 & 3 to go with and NVQ to bring it all together.<br />
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Find an out-fit that will put together the package to get you an Electricians ECS JIB Gold Card.<br />
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The Gold Card is the only ticket that carries any weight in the industry and opens doors if you want to work as a spark across all the sectors.</div>
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<div class="bbWrapper">I've joined this forum just to post some information about the company that calls itself New Trades Career (among other names). It's based on some background checks I did on them after a negative experience. These things should immediately set off some alarm bells for you:<br />
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1) They seem to have set up a website under the domain trust-reviews.org which has some very good reviews on it and appears somewhere at the top of the Google search results. The website is clearly meant to mimic other review sites like Trust Pilot, but when you look into it you realize it only has reviews for this company on it. These are obviously very deceptive tactics and it's the main thing that made me gain trust in the company when I did my first background check on them. I've attached some screenshots of the website in case it's removed in the future. When asked about the website, they deny all knowledge of it.<br />
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2) They go by various different names. During my communications with them they sent emails from the domain "tradescollege.org". Links were sent to the websites "newtradescareer.co.uk" (New Trades Career) and "ntc-college.co.uk" (NTC College). There's also a website under the domain "tradescollege.co.uk" which most likely also belongs to them.<br />
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3) They say they have colleges "all around the country", but there is no information on any of the websites about where these colleges are. When I phoned them and asked about the location of the colleges, I was told by the representative that she did not "feel comfortable divulging this information".<br />
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4) They expect you to sign up for the course without sending you a contract or any information about the kind of financial commitment you'd be getting into. In my case it was a 48 month commitment at £180 per month. When I asked them to see a contract, they told me this was not possible until after I'd handed over my bank details because "the system didn't allow it".<br />
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5) There are some negative reviews of the company on Trust Pilot, however the trust pilot reviews don't seem to appear when you Google the company (at least not anywhere near the top). I also tried to post my own review on Trust Pilot, but my reviews were flagged for "Violating Trust Pilot Guidelines" (No further explanation). If you do a bit of digging into Trust Pilot itself, you'll find that you can't trust them either and that they frequently take down genuine reviews on spurious grounds.</div>
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I've joined this forum just to post some information about the company that calls itself New Trades Career (among other names). It's based on some background checks I did on them after a negative experience. These things should immediately set off some alarm bells for you:<br />
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1) They seem to have set up a website under the domain trust-reviews.org which has some very good reviews on it and appears somewhere at the top of the Google search results. The website is clearly meant to mimic other review sites like Trust Pilot, but when you look into it you realize it only has reviews for this company on it. These are obviously very deceptive tactics and it's the main thing that made me gain trust in the company when I did my first background check on them. I've attached some screenshots of the website in case it's removed in the future. When asked about the website, they deny all knowledge of it.<br />
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2) They go by various different names. During my communications with them they sent emails from the domain "tradescollege.org". Links were sent to the websites "newtradescareer.co.uk" (New Trades Career) and "ntc-college.co.uk" (NTC College). There's also a website under the domain "tradescollege.co.uk" which most likely also belongs to them.<br />
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3) They say they have colleges "all around the country", but there is no information on any of the websites about where these colleges are. When I phoned them and asked about the location of the colleges, I was told by the representative that she did not "feel comfortable divulging this information".<br />
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4) They expect you to sign up for the course without sending you a contract or any information about the kind of financial commitment you'd be getting into. In my case it was a 48 month commitment at £180 per month. When I asked them to see a contract, they told me this was not possible until after I'd handed over my bank details because "the system didn't allow it".<br />
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5) There are some negative reviews of the company on Trust Pilot, however the trust pilot reviews don't seem to appear when you Google the company (at least not anywhere near the top). I also tried to post my own review on Trust Pilot, but my reviews were flagged for "Violating Trust Pilot Guidelines" (No further explanation). If you do a bit of digging into Trust Pilot itself, you'll find that you can't trust them either and that they frequently take down genuine reviews on spurious grounds.
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</blockquote>Can you enlighten us on your negative experience?</div>
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Can you enlighten us on your negative experience?
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</blockquote>Mainly, this: I was pressured into signing up for a course at a cost of £180 per month with a 48 month commitment without being given any real information. In fact, the sales guy only mentioned the 48 month commitment after I specifically asked. When I then asked him to send me a contract (which you should not even have to ask for), the guy got angry and said that "the system would not allow him to" until after I'd handed over my bank details. When I insisted, he got even angrier and told me he was "very busy" and eventually disconnected the call. I'm not sure on the legality of this, but I've never encountered a company before that refuses to send you a contract for such a long term commitment. This, added to all the other stuff I mentioned above, tells me all I need to know about them.</div>
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How long ago was this? There’s all sorts of legislation in the consumer credit act with cooling off periods etc. Have you started any sort of course yet?
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</blockquote>Beside the point. Even if there are cooling off periods, etc. you shouldn't sign up/ sign anything before you have a good idea of what you're getting yourself into. With a 48 month contract, there are all sorts of questions. What if I decide I don't want to do the course anymore? What if I become ill? Also, have a read of the reviews on Trust Pilot. Apparently one of their other tactics is to send you the study materials by post several weeks after you sign up. That way you miss the cooling off period.</div>
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So have you signed anything or is it just that you’ve given over your bank details?
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</blockquote>Neither.</div>
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<div class="bbWrapper">as with anything else, shop around and research each provider. Dan posted on page 1 of this thread a useful post regarding 2 of the forum sponsors. A mate of mine did a short course DI course aged late 50's with Tradeskills4U and is currently doing well, domestic only.</div>
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</blockquote>Apologies. I thought you’d signed up to the course. There are a few dodgy course providers around that employ hard sell tactics. Forget them and continue to shop around as there are plenty of better ones. Don’t forget your local colleges, if you have one, as you’ll save some money.</div>
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as with anything else, shop around and research each provider. Dan posted on page 1 of this thread a useful post regarding 2 of the forum sponsors. A mate of mine did a short course DI course aged late 50's with Tradeskills4U and is currently doing well, domestic only.
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Apologies. I thought you’d signed up to the course. There are a few dodgy course providers around that employ hard sell tactics. Forget them and continue to shop around as there are plenty of better ones. Don’t forget your local colleges, if you have one, as you’ll save some money.
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</blockquote>No, I pulled out just before signing up. I had a feeling that it was dodgy the whole time, but the people I spoke to were very charming and professional (until I asked for a contract) and the trust-reviews website convinced me it was a genuine course. <br />
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Thanks for the advice, the college route is something I'm exploring now and looks very promising.</div>
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