NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC Blackmail

[High Tower]

Any fees need to be levelled "per" sparky, not per organisation. That's where we should be united.

That does really rub me up, I live very close to the HQ of NG Baileys and it racks me off that they have the same inspection with the same engineer and pay the same fee as little ole me! I have to agree with you 100%

 

[Guest55]

Oh and councils, specifiers, contracts managers etc can quite legally require you to be NIC without breaking any laws, if they are engaging you as a company they can ask you to be a Jedi knight or a magic prince if that's what takes their fancy

well , not quite.
Your local council may insist on nic registered companies for tendering of their own contracts on their own buildings , but they cannot insist on the public the same brand preference without breaking many EU fair trade / business competition regulations.

and its the later point which the LABC's over step the mark , both regulary & illegally ,
and as such is the core issue of the OP's thread.

My advice to anyone in napit or elecsa whom feel they are excluded unfairly should contact their schemes legal team and ask for direct support of your behalf.

and they will , in fact they have no choice to as if they refuse , they are basically saying theyre not prepared back thier own brand against the competition , which is business suicide.

 

[Guest55]

Yes I am and it's more like £450 a year!. Not much more than the others.

As for the Jib I wouldn't give them the time of day, go to their HQ in Sidcup and they still are working in the dark ages, and my NIC reg has opened plenty of doors where my JIB card is nothing but hassle!.

The jib is not fit for purpose!

and why is that ?

from where im stood the jib is the only club that you cant buy your way into.
and at £24 for 3 years membership its decidedly better value.

 

[High Tower]

and why is that ?

from where im stood the jib is the only club that you cant buy your way into.
and at £24 for 3 years membership its decidedly better value.

There inability to answer simple enquiries or turn anything around in a timely manner,

Visit them at Sidcup and it's like a trip back to the dark ages!

I like the principles and concept it's the delivery they lack in!

 

[shanky887614]

There inability to answer simple enquiries or turn anything around in a timely manner,

Visit them at Sidcup and it's like a trip back to the dark ages!

I like the principles and concept it's the delivery they lack in!

As much as we all moan about them.

There a lot cheaper than labc in a lot of cases

 

[brizospark]

The JIB are not there to answer your enquiries. As a qualified electrician you should have access to the most recent regs books and several other pieces of literature to work the answer out for yourself

 

[brizospark]

I'm going to start my own organisation and monitor milk suppliers. I will make my living from visiting all the different dairy farms in the country and make sure they are adhering to standards that have been put in place by the food standards agency and make sure these dairy farmers are complying with rules they are already aware of. My plan is to then approach the supermarkets and manipulate them into strictly buying from dairy farmers which are registered in my scheme. Of course there will be an extortionate fee for these dairy farmers to be part of my scheme and it will provide me with a good living. It doesn't matter that i will be taking a cut of their hard earned profits, they need the supermarkets so they will have no option but to join.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i am NIC registered....but that doesn`t mean i like the current setup..

Damian has told me as well that there are plenty within the NIC that feel the same about the racketeering

 

[GLENNSPARK]

The JIB are not there to answer your enquiries. As a qualified electrician you should have access to the most recent regs books and several other pieces of literature to work the answer out for yourself

same as this forum..

Electrical Trainee and unskilled/incompetant/unqualified jobeys coming in here take note...

 

[High Tower]

The JIB are not there to answer your enquiries. As a qualified electrician you should have access to the most recent regs books and several other pieces of literature to work the answer out for yourself

Please do not patronise me, I'm qualified to my eyeballs, have all the relevant publications, quite the library in fact, enquires made were such as "where is my card", "when are the next ECS tests for the lads"

You only have to look at them as a organisation to see that they have been left behind by the movement of time

 

[brizospark]

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The insistence on using NIC only could be construed as a restraint of trade under law, especially if this insistence is made a precondition of contract[/FONT]

 

[Octopus]

That does really rub me up, I live very close to the HQ of NG Baileys and it racks me off that they have the same inspection with the same engineer and pay the same fee as little ole me! I have to agree with you 100%

So we have agreement where to start then.

This is how we should focus our anger.....

I suspect the majority of people unhappy about the fees are the Sole Traders like me.

 

[R G]

i am NIC registered....but that doesn`t mean i like the current setup..

Damian has told me as well that there are plenty within the NIC that feel the same about the racketeering

The NIC should have stuck to what they used to do , offer only 1 scheme approved contractor and thats it , with domestic installer status included .
the domestic installer route they have gone down has made them more sell sell , and now offer D/I courses , I think many who have been with them some time feel that its all gone down the pan,,,

 

[brizospark]

Please do not patronise me, I'm qualified to my eyeballs, have all the relevant publications, quite the library in fact, enquires made were such as "where is my card", "when are the next ECS tests for the lads"

You only have to look at them as a organisation to see that they have been left behind by the movement of time

This is completely irrelevant to the OP. NICEIC, although they would love to be, are not involved in grading cards. I am not saying that the JIB are run like a well oiled machine but what I am implying is that there is absolutely no place for organisations such as the NICEIC. They are an unnecessary middle man between electricians and the end product. I have to admit that their marketing and manipulation talents are second to none.

I have no doubt that you are well qualified and have a lot of literature. To be honest it just disappoints me that there are sparks out there like yourself who are supporting the NICEIC while there are others who rightfully make a stand against these leeches

 

[Engineer54]

Again i won't get involved in the present argument, save to say, that at this moment in time the JIB/SJIB, are the ONLY organisation where you will not find a single electrical trainee 17 Whizz Kidd on the books.
Yes the JIB have many problems, but at least they do have a sound and recognised route and recognised standards for qualified electricians and upholds those standards...

So credit where credits due!! lol!!