NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC Blackmail

[Redvanman]

That's utter nonsense redvanman there is no requirement for work to be signed off by a member if such a scheme if you are not registered. Show me where in the regs it states this.

I don't know where you heard this but you have been misinformed

So if you have wired an extension and the builder wants it signed off then what happens.
Part P is a legal requirement and it clearly states on the first page that if you are not a registered person then you can use a registered third party or the building control body who intern use a registered third party

 

[brizospark]

There is no LEGAL requirement to be registered with a scheme in order to issue an electrical installation certificate for work which you have carried out

 

[Pete999]

Apologies Pete yes I need to think before I type, although it is quite mild compared to the comments I made down the phone to them.

I was jokin mate bloody good job I didn't speak to the parasites, sorry for the rant

 

[dazza1981]

It is a load of twaddle, i do quite a few private jobs now days and im not with a scam either.
5 year apprenticeship plus did my 2391 yet still expected to join a scheme and line there pockets..... dont bloody think so!!!
My attitude to it now is why should i turn down the odd private job because if i dont do the work then john wayne rides in on his horse after 5 weeks of training and does it anyway with no testing done what so ever!!!
At the very least i know ive carried out all testing and customer can rest assured its a neat job and above all SAFE!!!!

 

[Guest55]

So if you have wired an extension and the builder wants it signed off then what happens.
Part P is a legal requirement and it clearly states on the first page that if you are not a registered person then you can use a registered third party or the building control body who intern use a registered third party

building notification is the legal responsibility of the property owner , not the electrical contractor
and anyone can issue electrical certs.

 

[brizospark]

Thanks for clarifying biff

 

[Pete999]

Rooster rip off you mean mate I'm vexed, so vexed I could almost pack it in, seen some of the crap installed by 5 week winkers not all but the majority

 

[Redvanman]

There is no LEGAL requirement to be registered with a scheme in order to issue an electrical installation certificate for work which you have carried out

I didn't say that you had to join a scheme for legal reasons just that the Part P is a legal requirement.
As I said it is cheaper to be a member than pay over the top prices for a third party unless you only do one or two Part P jobs a year

 

[Redvanman]

It is a load of twaddle, i do quite a few private jobs now days and im not with a scam either.
5 year apprenticeship plus did my 2391 yet still expected to join a scheme and line there pockets..... dont bloody think so!!!
My attitude to it now is why should i turn down the odd private job because if i dont do the work then john wayne rides in on his horse after 5 weeks of training and does it anyway with no testing done what so ever!!!
At the very least i know ive carried out all testing and customer can rest assured its a neat job and above all SAFE!!!!

Are your jobs notifiable ?

 

[Silly Sausage]

building notification is the legal responsibility of the property owner , not the electrical contractor
and anyone can issue electrical certs.

I hope Murdoch doesn't see this. :smilielol5:

 

[Redvanman]

building notification is the legal responsibility of the property owner , not the electrical contractor
and anyone can issue electrical certs.

Your absolutely correct but do you tell your customers that they have to arrange for the Part P compliance at they own cost

 

[Guest55]

i dont do domestic work period , so of no relevence to me.

but the law allows the consumer freedom of choice on whom they employ , and thats the important thing.

 

[Brightspark2]

If your losing a lot of work because of it then bite your lip and join...

Companies feel more comfortable if a contractor is an NIC member as it means someone is verifying there work complies with regulations and is to a high standard (or susposed to be (so hold your fire))

You can argue with them if you want but likely you'll just lose the work and they will get a contractor who is registered...

Our registration pays for itself as we wouldn't have 75% of the work if we were not registered (we don't do domestic)


As biff says it's a buisness decision...

 

[Guest55]

I hope Murdoch doesn't see this. :smilielol5:

why is that ?

 

[Silly Sausage]

why is that ?

According to M (apologies if it isn't him!), on previous threads, doing notifiable work and leaving it to the customer the responsibility of notifying it, is tantamount to Fraud! Even if you inform the customer of the fact.