Stroma Certification Scheme NICEIC prices going up, thinking of going with stroma.

[sham]

Has anyone considered moving to Stroma, or have you already done so. I've had an email from NICEIC saying that they increased their prices. Therefore I am considering moving to Stroma. Also, Stroma say they do not have an issue with third party certs, as NICEIC told me that they do not allow it.

(Stroma Certification is one of the only UK certification bodies to be authorised by DCLG to operate a Domestic Electrical Installation Third Party scheme. This strand of certification allows an electrician to check the work of another Competent Person and verify a domestic installation as compliant.)

 

[Nigel]

NIC going up by £10. Do you not increase your rates annually?

 

[sham]

NIC going up by £10. Do you not increase your rates annually?

If I have to increase my prices because they do, that is an issue for me. They are already expensive. Does the customer care, he will go to the cheaper person. it's not only £10 it's £10 on their already expensive price on a service they are bad at.

 

[Bellendian]

Why would anyone see the 3rd party thing as beneficial?
Personally I reckon I could do the work and self certify the whole thing quicker than all the agro that would come with trying to coach diyers and handymen to the point that they produced a compliant install. Plus, the main reason for anyone wanting to adopt that approach is likely to be cost saving, so I don't really see it as a great plus point.

 

[Nigel]

If I have to increase my prices because they do, that is an issue for me. They are already expensive. Does the customer care, he will go to the cheaper person. it's not only £10 it's £10 on their already expensive price on a service they are bad at.

But inflation would mean you are earning less than last year if you do not put your prices up.

 

[sham]

Why would anyone see the 3rd party thing as beneficial?
Personally I reckon I could do the work and self certify the whole thing quicker than all the agro that would come with trying to coach diyers and handymen to the point that they produced a compliant install. Plus, the main reason for anyone wanting to adopt that approach is likely to be cost saving, so I don't really see it as a great plus point.

Would you go to Stroma, because they are allot cheaper ?

 

[sham]

But inflation would mean you are earning less than last year if you do not put your prices up.

Yes, but in the case of Stroma they allot cheaper. So if I did join them, I would not need to increase my prices.

 

[Nigel]

Yes, but in the case of Stroma they allot cheaper. So if I did join them, I would not need to increase my prices.

If you cannot afford the premiership then go for Division 2.

 

[Baddegg]

How much is niceic?

 

[Starjack]

It's only going up by 10.00 that's the cost of a breakfast, things aren't that bad are they.

 

[Nigel]

How much is niceic?

Application - £495

First year - £455

Renewal - £435

 

[Bellendian]

In the grand scheme of business overheads it's jack. Premises and vehicles far more significant, so I'd rather stick with a more recognised brand.

 

[sham]

Application - £495

First year - £455

Renewal - £435

Really? £534.00 for me. I have no issue with £455 , that's cheaper than Napit.

 

[sham]

How much is niceic?

£534.00 for me.

 

[sham]

In the grand scheme of business overheads it's jack. Premises and vehicles far more significant, so I'd rather stick with a more recognised brand.

In domestics, customers do not really care in my experience. They have no idea of schemes and building notifications, or they do not care.

 

[Glen Handley]

The NICEIC have never told me not to use my own certificates that I buy a disc off eBay. They have asked why I don't use their certificates which work out about £1 each I believe mine cost £20 till they change again.

 

[Fitzy]

They should scrap all the schemes and put the onus on the home owner to pay the LBC fees and notifications and fine them if they don’t notify.

 

[123]

Application - £495

First year - £455

Renewal - £435

Is that not the Approved Contractor fees?

DI a bit less.

All prices +VAT

 

[Andy78]

I have no issues with Stroma's service. It does what it is supposed to.
I wouldn't recommend using the third party service. Why would you want to actively enable others to do you out of possible work ?

 

[sham]

In the grand scheme of business overheads it's jack. Premises and vehicles far more significant, so I'd rather stick with a more recognised brand.

In domestics, customers do not really care in my experience. They have no idea of schemes and building notifications, or they do not care.

They should scrap all the schemes and put the onus on the home owner to pay the LBC fees and notifications and fine them if they don’t notify.

I was thinking of creating a petition for what you said. The LBC can select properties they can inspect by contacting owner. great idea. scrap all scam schemes.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I don’t really get the mentality to be honest, being part of a scheme is a necessary overhead for many of us.

Being part of Stroma your overhead will be about £1.18 a day

Being an NICEIC approved contractor your overhead will be about £2.05 a day

Difference being 87 pence a day. 87 pence a day difference, to be apart of the most recognized scheme is a know brainer for me especially as it generally generates work. I picked up a 17K rewire last year where the customer found my contact details from the NICEIC website. I’ve never had a builder or developer ask if I’m part P, Stroma, NAPIT etc they always ask “are you NICEIC registered”. Being part of a scheme shouldn’t be costing you anything as it should be included in your business overheads....I very much doubt you would ever loose a job being 87 pence a day more expensive.

 

[sham]

The NICEIC have never told me not to use my own certificates that I buy a disc off eBay. They have asked why I don't use their certificates which work out about £1 each I believe mine cost £20 till they change again.

can you send link or tell me hoe to get link, please ?

 

[sham]

I don’t really get the mentality to be honest, being part of a scheme is a necessary overhead for many of us.

Being part of Stroma your overhead will be about £1.18 a day

Being an NICEIC approved contractor your overhead will be about £2.05 a day

Difference being 87 pence a day. 87 pence a day difference, to be apart of the most recognized scheme is a know brainer for me especially as it generally generates work. I picked up a 17K rewire last year where the customer found my contact details from the NICEIC website. I’ve never had a builder or developer ask if I’m part P, Stroma, NAPIT etc they always ask “are you NICEIC registered”. Being part of a scheme shouldn’t be costing you anything as it should be included in your business overheads....I very much doubt you would ever loose a job being 87 pence a day more expensive.

Good point, I forgot, I got some work, that way as well. Contractors and housing agencies still ask for NICEIC contractors.

 

[Wilko]

Just looking up the fees for starting out, unless I'm mistaken :
Stroma first year £255 + vat
Nice Guys first year £890 + vat
The Nic initial assessment doubles the cost in the first year. Sorry to say that's a hurdle for me.

 

[dinger809]

Application - £495

First year - £455

Renewal - £435

That’s plus VAT