No paperwork following new bathroom installation

[Hayley Roebuck]

Hi am new to forum. Just had 4.5day bathroom installation. Bathroom v good however was told on initial survey we wont need to touch your electrics - was keeping original Mira Sport shower and spotlights. Day 1 was then told "our sparky wont pass them, you need new spots, need bathroom rewire" this then led to "need new fuse board with rcd" ok. £480. Ok. We have a hotwater tank that was on a Diall timer (and worcester bosch CH only boiler) only moved in 1 month ago but worked perfectly timed at night on economy 7 tariff. Discovered to horror on thursday that timer been removed "cos its not safe" think timer fine, i still have it, but there was no trip for it on new fuseboard, something about incorrect current loop? So to stop a permanent tripping out theyve replaced timer with a fused manual on/offswitch? Wire from top of tank old and casing snapped of in places - not replaced. Ongoing argument about this but they say sparky says "its now safe". Other plumbing issues, leaking sink, stole my existing shower head replaced it with naff plastic one. No reasons given.My husband has paid them in full my question is what is safe/advisable re hot water tank and what paperwork should i have re installation of fuse board/new spots/partial bathroom rewire/extractor etc. I spoke to the sparky on Tuesday in person he was knowledgeable but they got him to complete job wen i was out on Wednesday. (I was told Thursday and had booked the day off )Bathroom company say "there is no paperwork" they came highly recommended but since found out they never issue paperwork even receipts! What should i have been given and how do i get it tested to make sure its now safe? Electrician said on Tuesday i ideally need a whole house rewire this would be "£3to5k"? It looks like its black/red cabling which is ok but been diy-ed. Family member who does commercial looked it over before the bathroom debacle started when on old fuse box said it was safe but didnt test sockets etc. Tearing hair out here, please help. They sending sparky back next week as gesture of goodwill but i dont know whether to use him/report to trading standards? I've no leverage cos husband paid thank you

 

[diditrain]

You should have got an Electrical Installation Certificate for the replacement fuseboard

 

[Midwest]

I'm not sure if I can follow the opening post, to make any comment. But agree any electrical installation work needs certificating, and possibly notification to local building control (in England & Wales).

 

[Andy78]

Ask the electrician in person for the certificate and building control notification. Might just be the bathroom company being awkward.

You should get invoices/receipts for the work though.

 

[Wilko]

Hi - as per @Andy78 .
Regarding E7 - I suspect he's bundled the heating into the new Consumer Unit, which removed the separately timed and metered capability. No reason this can't be repaired / restored, in my Internet view. Here's a link to a short explanation of how it works etc.
https://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/economy-7/#step2

 

[littlespark]

Paid or not, you can still get a solicitor involved to argue that work was done that you did not agree to.
Keep any emails, invoices, receipts etc.
Bottom line.... they had no reason to touch the electrics, they shouldn't have.

 

[The Ghost]

Well if they said in the first place nothing is to be done electrically you would not need a sparky to pass them much less not pass them. What is he passing? Nothing as there is nothing to do.

 

[UNG]

Trying to understand why you would have economy 7 water heating and gas central heating unless there are other high load appliances making use of the off peak electric
That aside it sounds like there may be a number of issues with this electrical installation including the "spark" doing the alterations.
An "incorrect current loop" is this what the spark said or the OP's interpretation and not fitting a large enough CU to accommodate all the circuits start to make alarm bells ring

 

[Cid]

Bathroom fitters were correct in having the fuse board upgraded. However you get what you pay for. The electrical installation should have been tested before and after changing the consumer unit. Economy7 should ideally be on a separate board and the costs would have been a lot higher.
From a home owners perspective you should consider getting rid of the economy 7 and getting a combi boiler some time in the near future.

 

[solarsavings]

stole my existing shower head replaced it with naff plastic one.

I've to come across a shower head that's worth nicking. Perhaps it went in the trash having come from a mira sport.

 

[UNG]

Bathroom fitters were correct in having the fuse board upgraded. However you get what you pay for. The electrical installation should have been tested before and after changing the consumer unit. Economy7 should ideally be on a separate board and the costs would have been a lot higher.
From a home owners perspective you should consider getting rid of the economy 7 and getting a combi boiler some time in the near future.

Just trying to work out why someone living in Brighouse would use a London based contractor

 

[Hayley Roebuck]

Just trying to work out why someone living in Brighouse would use a London based contractor

Don't understand this the fitters are based in Dewsbury the Electrician in Morley, Leeds i believe though not confirmed.

 

[Hayley Roebuck]

I've to come across a shower head that's worth nicking. Perhaps it went in the trash having come from a mira sport.

you should see what it has been replaced with! Mira sport has a special hosee i believe that works in conjunction with the unit. Perhaps this why its now spitting etc

 

[Hayley Roebuck]

Well if they said in the first place nothing is to be done electrically you would not need a sparky to pass them much less not pass them. What is he passing? Nothing as there is nothing to do.

I know it is weird but they just lied at the beginning, decided to take the ceiling down that we had agreed would stay put - cos it will look better, which it does to be fair. Took it down uncovered myriad of wiring issues etc

 

[Hayley Roebuck]

Ask the electrician in person for the certificate and building control notification. Might just be the bathroom company being awkward.

You should get invoices/receipts for the work though.

Is it a legal requirement to issue EIC /be Niceic registered to fit new consumer unit and do rewiring?