Non-notifiable competent DIYer jobs

[k_d_ch]

At the moment I have electrical wires running in trunking attached the walls, which I find somewhat unsightly, especially
in view of redecoration that I am carrying out at the moment. I would like conceal this wiring in trunking within the walls
(trunking plastered over), which may possibly require changing whole sections of wiring if the existing length is not sufficient.
Are these jobs notifiable? Do I have to invite a local buildings control officer to check an installation of this sort before connecting it to the mains?
This must be standard question, but I can find a clear answer to it anywhere right now. Will I find it in IEE Wiring Regulations?
I know I have to familiarise myself with this book before I do any work anyway...
Many thanks for any advice!

 

[k_d_ch]

your not going to take our advice mate

Why? I am grateful for your advice, and I will take it into account.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

It has proved to me to be not as straightforward as I thought it would be. Unfortunately, value is not always there. Which you may discover a few years on
when it is too late... Please see my reply to ExArmy.

well....you just do what you think then....
look at that wall as a blank canvas......and you are the artist......

 

[k_d_ch]

To the OP:

Trunking is for containing cables on the surface of a wall. When cables are to be buried in a wall, then generally no containment is required. If you wanted containment, in a domestic setting you'd use conduit. Since you don't know the difference between conduit and trunking, I'd say please, please get a spark in to do the job. Won't cost the earth but you'll know the work is compliant and has been tested as safe. I know you probably won't, but hey ho that's all you're getting out of me!

What does "OP" stand for? GLENNSPARK also used it, I did not understand his comment.
I think I know the difference between conduit and trunking.
And I am sorry I have given you an impression that I want to "get something out of you". It is always interesting to talk to experts in the field, that's all.

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well....you just do what you think then....
look at that wall as a blank canvas......and you are the artist......

Not at all. And that is why I am here.

 

[Adam W]

well....you just do what you think then....
look at that wall as a blank canvas......and you are the artist......

If he uses SWA then he can bury the cable in the wall following the same route as the trunking, obviously in PVC trunking to avoid having to use cleats.
Maybe run the SWA in conduit inside the trunking just in case, then plaster over the lot.

 

[k_d_ch]

From what your saying they prob charge you a bomb because you have messed with it before and they have to come in and sort your mess out!

No, the lady said it was just normal re-wiring of the house. And if anyone left a mess is the person who did it, for what I have seen under the bathroom floor.

 

[kingeri]

OP means opening post or opening poster.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

If he uses SWA then he can bury the cable in the wall following the same route as the trunking, obviously in PVC trunking to avoid having to use cleats.
Maybe run the SWA in conduit inside the trunking just in case, then plaster over the lot.

the other option Adam is to just run it all direct:

 

[LED Lighting]

Right as I said your going to do it yourself and as its been said already just cut the hole in the walls, tack the cables to the wall (in the whole) and ferment/plaster back over.
no protection needed! Only requirement is RCD protection and correct cable Runs.

im going to get shouted at now but I see it as ur going to do it anyway.

if you need to extend cables there's 2 ways. Maintance free crimps or new run.

lets drop the subject now please

 

[davethsparky]

To the OP:

Trunking is for containing cables on the surface of a wall. When cables are to be buried in a wall, then generally no containment is required. If you wanted containment, in a domestic setting you'd use conduit. Since you don't know the difference between conduit and trunking, I'd say please, please get a spark in to do the job. Won't cost the earth but you'll know the work is compliant and has been tested as safe. I know you probably won't, but hey ho that's all you're getting out of me!

I have always been taught that T+E and similar cables buried in the wall have to have some form of containment (oval conduit or capping) to protect them from chemicals in the plaster etc and from damage when the is filled/plastered.
And that Armoured/MI/Hi tuff type cables dont need containment as the outer sheath is tougher/more resistant.

 

[LED Lighting]

I have always been taught that T+E and similar cables buried in the wall have to have some form of containment (oval conduit or capping) to protect them from chemicals in the plaster etc and from damage when the is filled/plastered.
And that Armoured/MI/Hi tuff type cables dont need containment as the outer sheath is tougher/more resistant.

No nothing needed but RCD protection

 

[k_d_ch]

Right as I said your going to do it yourself and as its been said already just cut the hole in the walls, tack the cables to the wall (in the whole) and ferment/plaster back over.
no protection needed! Only requirement is RCD protection and correct cable Runs.

im going to get shouted at now but I see it as ur going to do it anyway.

if you need to extend cables there's 2 ways. Maintance free crimps or new run.

lets drop the subject now please

Thanks but this seems a bit harsh. If I ever did this myself (and I still don't know if I will), I would not bury the cables just like that.
Use trunking or conduit, some sort of casing (suitable for this sort of thing of course), at the very least. To me this is just common sense of a job well done...

 

[k_d_ch]

To kingeri:

Thanks for clarifying, I am new to this.

 

[LED Lighting]

I'm not trying to be harsh mate, I'm trying to help.
we see it on here all the time where people ask how to do it then a week or two later they make out they had an electrician in who did it exactly like they were proposing and something goes wrong, and they are back here asking for help.

 

[k_d_ch]

I'm not trying to be harsh mate, I'm trying to help.

Sorry to be a bit blunt, but how burying cables in the wall without any casing in not harsher then putting them into some protective sleeve (trunking, conduid,
metallic channel etc.)? To protect them from elements, add a degree of protection (not complete of course) against impact, and to have a neat job?

 

[Guitarist]

I have always been taught that T+E and similar cables buried in the wall have to have some form of containment (oval conduit or capping) to protect them from chemicals in the plaster etc and from damage when the is filled/plastered.
And that Armoured/MI/Hi tuff type cables dont need containment as the outer sheath is tougher/more resistant.

Personally, I always use oval conduit. Strictly speaking, it isn't needed with plaster, only cement.