OK, I'll kick off tonights Political thread.....

[specs]

And blair and brown always told us the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, they were and probably still are the most loathed pair of political hypocrites to ever enter the political arena. They set the scene for todays problems, blair for giving in to every eu demand and brown for opening the gates for immigration into this country ( because (he said) it would keep inflation down ). I have absolutely no love for what is going on in the NHS or housing or schools But who were the people who began this chaos. My next vote is for UKIP, at least they appear to stand for the good of the British people. As it stands my kids and grand kids will be lucky if they can afford to live in this country of ours if things continue as they are. I work for a property developer and they are the best bosses I have ever worked for, they buy/sell/and rent properties all over London, they look after me like you wouldn't believe,but even I can see the problems that ever increasing rent and property values will bring to my kids and their kids.. These problems were caused by blair and brown.

 

[Guest77]

You'll need to back that up somehow.

um no, you need to back up your totally crappy post Adam lol

 

[Adam W]

Yes Murdoch, because everyone loves sitting on their arse doing nothing and being skint don't they. Yet again, the amount of people happy to do this is miniscule but they are continually mentioned by certain members of the government to give people someone else to hate.

Some people do love sitting on their arse and not having to work for their money. They say 'Working is a mug's game'.
I've met some of them.

 

[Guest77]

The problems in this Country are down to thatcher, we had the same industry as Germany and the same infrastructure before she got her hands on the country, they thrived and are the 3rd richest country in the world, they export everything everywhere, we have and own nothing, Blair had nothing to do with that, he had to modernise Britain after 20 years of Tory rule and no public spending at all by the Conservative party, we had nothing after thatcher, nothing, how is Blair to blame for that then??

 

[Adam W]

Whats teh problem mate, you're posting

Nah I wrote a reply to one of your posts but kept getting the screen telling me I'd been blocked.

 

[trev]

Some people do love sitting on their arse and not having to work for their money. They say 'Working is a mug's game'.
I've met some of them.

the amount of people happy to do this is miniscule


See that line? So have I but they are not as prevelant as some would have you believe

 

[Octopus]

Yes Murdoch, because everyone loves sitting on their arse doing nothing and being skint don't they. Yet again, the amount of people happy to do this is miniscule but they are continually mentioned by certain members of the government to give people someone else to hate.

So EXACTLY how did 700K people come here and get jobs? By being flexible, taking any job and not being selective....

13 years of New Labour found that 50% of school leavers completely ignored by the Government as they didn't want to go to University.

they are all hypocrites.

 

[Adam W]

um no, you need to back up your totally crappy post Adam lol

£25 to see your GP: Majority of doctors want to charge patients for routine appointments - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent
It's GPs who wanted to charge for appointments, not the government.
It was rejected by nurses:
Nurses reject plans to make patients pay £10 for a GP appointment - Home News - UK - The Independent

Now tell us where you've heard the government want to charge £150 for an appointment lol.

 

[trev]

So EXACTLY how did 700K people come here and get jobs? By being flexible, taking any job and not being selective....

13 years of New Labour found that 50% of school leavers completely ignored by the Government as they didn't want to go to University.

they are all hypocrites.

Where does that 700k come from please?

 

[Octopus]

Where does that 700k come from please?

Its the generally recognised numbers of Eastern Europeans who arrived here from about 2001 to 2010

 

[trev]

Generally recognised by whom? There must be a source for it somewhere.

 

[Guest77]

£25 to see your GP: Majority of doctors want to charge patients for routine appointments - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent
It's GPs who wanted to charge for appointments, not the government.
It was rejected by nurses:
Nurses reject plans to make patients pay £10 for a GP appointment - Home News - UK - The Independent

Now tell us where you've heard the government want to charge £150 for an appointment lol.

Well funnily enough I saw a program about it on sky news which went into detail about 150 quid and the outrage which would be obviously felt by the majority of the public, the GPs were not happy and suggested 25 quid, the government wanted 150, this is another tory policy which has been shot down in flames, they are still determined to charge us for GP appointments just like the bedroom and pasty tax, the Numpty party who only represent 1% of the country, the filthy rich, How any working class man or woman can vote for that party is a mystery, it really is a mystery.

 

[Octopus]

Where does that 700k come from please?

MigrationWatchUK | What is the problem?

Then read bullet point 8 - it would seem I'm low by rather a lot.

I recall the 700K as being the numbers who are registered with NI numbers and are working -but if you use the numbers on this page its bad news.

and if you read bullet point 10 you will see the population increased by 4 million in 10 years.

Now tell me that this isn't driving housing costs up!

 

[Adam W]

the amount of people happy to do this is miniscule


See that line? So have I but they are not as prevelant as some would have you believe

I disagree. I've met a few of them, I've seen non-working chavs sitting around drinking, smoking and harassing passers-by for spare change, spare cigarettes, the time etc. In the block I live in only 2 out of 10 seem to work full time, and another has a part-time cleaning job.

I've spoken to jobcentre staff who have assured me most of the people claiming JSA are 'genuine', but you see a lot of the claimants outside and they obviously don't want a job, but they have to make it look like they do to the JS staff otherwise they'd lose their benefits.

Similarly with immigration - people try to say it isn't a big problem, but when you walk around a supermarket or down a street and most of the voices you hear are speaking foreign languages it clearly is.

I was in Aldi earlier; while the cashier was serving me she started talking across me to the security guard in a foreign language. They might have been talking about me, I don't know, but I found it very rude. To me that is a problem. A minor one, but still a problem. Add several incidents like that together every day and becomes a bigger problem.

 

[Guest77]

Its the generally recognised numbers of Eastern Europeans who arrived here from about 2001 to 2010

How many went back home??