Opinions please EICR code C1 or C2?

[peterhyper]

A block of flats has various external lights not just attached to the building but around the grounds. Part of the circuit has twin and earth going underground with good readings but clearly unsuitable cable for external/underground use (not contained in any form of conduit).

The swa on the circuit is 2 core but the steel wire has been cut short on some lights at the top of brick piers with a couple of rusty strands of it attached to terminal blocks to connect to the lights earth, and not surprisingly the steel wire reading as the cpc as good as non existent with silly results (so the cpc is a 100% fail),

There are other ground lights that also have 2 core swa and the steel wire is not earthed (zero reading).

There is also no RCD protection for any external lights.

I am swaying between C1 and C2, so opinions appreciated.

 

[Strima]

Yes

Why? Doesn't come into effect until 01/01/19.

 

[Deleted account]

Why? Doesn't come into effect until 01/01/19.

During transitional period we can use either. So I give the customer the option.
This customer chose 18th.

 

[Nigel]

During transitional period we can use either. So I give the customer the option.
This customer chose 18th.

Would have been bettet to have familierised yourself with it first then eh? ;-)

 

[Deleted account]

I cannot argue with that.

Tbh I feel a bit sheepish. Bahhhh.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Why not in commercial premises?

Because lamps are more likely to be changed by maintenance teams than clumsy (or infirm) householders, who are at more risk poking around in ES fittings without knowledge of safe isolation etc.

And the original fault - C2 if the fittings aren't actually live. Otherwise there's no way to indicate a higher risk scenario of the fittings being live and ready to zap someone.

 

[Octopus]

Because lamps are more likely to be changed by maintenance teams than clumsy (or infirm) householders, who are at more risk poking around in ES fittings without knowledge of safe isolation etc.

And the original fault - C2 if the fittings aren't actually live. Otherwise there's no way to indicate a higher risk scenario of the fittings being live and ready to zap someone.

I've given you a disagree, because I simply see it as another example of clutching at straws to make enough changes to justify the 18th edition plus the vested interests of manufacturers on these committees who see increased revenues AND profits.