opinions please

[flukey]

hi all,
opinions appreciated on this scenario please.
3036 rewirable fuseboard, 16mm tails, 10mm main earth, 6mm bonding, no rcd protection.
customer wants their cooker switch moved 200mm to the left.
should be a nice easy job but wont meet the regs if only the socket is moved.
then again the installation wont be left in a less safe condition than before.
keep losing jobs like this by playing safe (regs, part p etc) but surely we can move a socket without the need to bring that circuit up to current regs
should i play it safe and let fat bob from down the pub do it or crack on myself
all opinions appreciated

 

[flukey]

No worries. Wasn't trying to hijack your thread. Thing is I am seeing more and more of these threads now. As times are getting harder people are looking for more ways to save money and cut corners.. Which invaribly means using Mr. pub matey

My opinion FWIW. If it was just moving a socket then I would do it. (tin hat on). I would suspect that the job is going to get done anyway! And as you haven't ALTERED (keyword ???) the circuit, then I can't see a problem. You wouldn't be adding to the load.

thats more like it. chances are i will nick this job from fatbloke and have 1 up on him, til nic shoot me down
atb

 

[johnstantine]

Is there any way of putting just the one cicuit on an rcd?, like coming out of your rewirable board and going through a one or two way unit with existing wiring. Would be cheaper than a new cu and you'd have protected the circuit.
Would be inclined to go by the book personally even though it's a right pain in the butt sometimes, at least you walk away without worry of any comebacks.

 

[flukey]

Is there any way of putting just the one cicuit on an rcd?, like coming out of your rewirable board and going through a one or two way unit with existing wiring. Would be cheaper than a new cu and you'd have protected the circuit.
Would be inclined to go by the book personally even though it's a right pain in the butt sometimes, at least you walk away without worry of any comebacks.

thanks for the reply
what about the main earth, bonding and tails not complying

 

[Spudnik]

You are not ADDING any additional load so i dont see the point in going through all that.

Just get on and do it!!!!!!!

 

[flukey]

You are not ADDING any additional load so i dont see the point in going through all that.

Just get on and do it!!!!!!!

hi jason,
so altering a circuit in a special location is not notifiable
how would you fill out the certificate and submit it

 

[Spudnik]

You are only moving a cooker switch, which the work itself IS notifiable.

What you should remember is, it IS bonded and earthed which was correct at the time of installation.

No RCD on a cooker circuit (without s/o?) is code 4 at best and so can be noted on the cert.

 

[flukey]

You are only moving a cooker switch, which the work itself IS notifiable.

What you should remember is, it IS bonded and earthed which was correct at the time of installation.

No RCD on a cooker circuit (without s/o?) is code 4 at best and so can be noted on the cert.

cheers jason
cooker outlet is with s/o.
hopefully nic will agree with you and jobs a goodun

 

[Spudnik]

My advice would be to (try) and speak to technical support tomorrow.

Dont forget to report back!

 

[flukey]

My advice would be to (try) and speak to technical support tomorrow.

Dont forget to report back!

thats the plan mate.
will post their response, (reckon i know what it will be already )

spoke to nic and must admit i was a bit shocked at their response.

they said no problem just do the job and cover it with a minor works highlighting known non conformities.

well i never

 

[Spudnik]

thats the plan mate.
will post their response, (reckon i know what it will be already )

spoke to nic and must admit i was a bit shocked at their response.

they said no problem just do the job and cover it with a minor works highlighting known non conformities.

well i never

Told ya so

 

[flukey]

Told ya so

you certainly did

cheers mate

 

[Peter Woodford]

I went to a house that was having works done in the bathroom and wanted lights updating said that circuit will need rcd protection and would recommend a fuseboard update. However when doing i.r before fuse board was changed found quiet a few circuits a mess i.e 1.5 cable being used in kitchen for power the list goes on. recommended a number of circuits need updating and was told they did'nt have the money. So in the end came off of henley block to a 2 way rcd board and ran new circuit for lights in bathroom and a socket in the loft so that new shower can be connected for mp 3 player.

 

[the jock]

i maybe a little late on this one

if you are going "just to do it " with all the checks

I would fit a retro fit MCB the at least your times should comply