Outdoor junction box for armoured cable

[LankyWill]

Your degree is completely irrelevant, I think your over estimating your skill set. Not only are you putting your self at risk but also others that come into contact with your 'have a go' attitude.

 

[Spoon]

Thanks for all the replies. It's quite funny and I appreciate the concern and advice.

It was meant to be a temporary solution put in by myself but then I didn't find a suitable box in Wickes or Screwfix that would accept the armoured cable.

It is some kind of old box that housed a switch, definitely not water tight.

I will try to find an IP65 box that can be drilled out to size.

I am not an electrician but I am doing a masters in Electronic Engineering, admittedly specialising in embedded software. I also have a copy of the 17th edition BSI Wiring Standards somewhere but I haven't really read it. I don't need an electrician, I just can't find a box. The wiring in the garage is much better! I have emergency stop buttons for the sockets, LED lighting, and a PIR for the lights.

Thanks for that mate. It's made my day. Couldn't stop laughing....

 

[telectrix]

Thanks for that mate. It's made my day. Couldn't stop laughing....

give the poor boy some credit. in Lancashire it would be a choc block wrapped in a tesco carrier bag.

 

[HandySparks]

... I don't need an electrician...

I hate to disagree, but...

 

[telectrix]

choice is between phoning an electrician and phoning the Coo-op Funeral service. no brainer. electrician is far less cost. them gravediggers charge £500 for a wooden box that gets toasted.

 

[gazdkw82]

OP - you obviously know this is not up to standard, hence why you posted looking for advice in the first place.

You've been advised by some very knowledgeable people that in its current situation the Junction box and associated wiring needs to be corrected by a competent person.

that isn't you.

Its not a cold water feed your working with. you wont get wet if (when) it goes wrong.

do the right thing and get it corrected.

You can sleep easy at night knowing its installed correctly and safely

 

[DPG]

Gazdkw sums it up well. I'm all for enthusiastic diy but this goes a little beyond that.

 

[Des 56]

Gaining an electronics degree is as much help as studying Cosmology when it concerns competence of the practical skill of an electrician

My opinion,even though you state "you don't need an electrician just a box"
Best get an electrician to clear up the mess, use the spare time for learning best practice before future electrical attempts

 

[Upton Sparks]

The problem I have is the junction outside the house where the 2.5mm meets the armoured cable, I can't find any glands or outdoor rated junction boxes to suit an armoured cable and 2.5mm.

I think your Problem is you've broken the Law.!

While BS7671 The electrical wiring regulations is a non statutory document, Part P of the building Regulation is a statutory requirement ! have you made notification to the local building control ?

Also were you planning on taking this dangerous installation out when you eventually sell the house or would you just leave it in for the next unsuspecting home owner?

Its is not safe and it could quite possibly be lethal, I really hope you don't have any small children running around the house.... no worth thinking about really.

Please get an electrician in to make it safe.

 

[Spoon]

Come on people.... This has to be a wind up.....
I hope it is...

 

[hightower]

I think your Problem is you've broken the Law.!

While BS7671 The electrical wiring regulations is a non statutory document, Part P of the building Regulation is a statutory requirement ! have you made notification to the local building control ?

Also were you planning on taking this dangerous installation out when you eventually sell the house or would you just leave it in for the next unsuspecting home owner?

Its is not safe and it could quite possibly be lethal, I really hope you don't have any small children running around the house.... no worth thinking about really.

Please get an electrician in to make it safe.

How do you know it needs to be notified?

 

[Lolopopo]

Wow... Calm down guys, yes I sleep well at night because the box isn't live, I kill the supply when it's not in use as mentioned above. It was a temporary measure that I've only just got round to addressing.

I know my degree isn't wholly relevant, I was just giving some background, I'm not a DIYer who's gone too far, I've designed, tested, and had approved circuitry for safety systems and modules used in building management systems for a multi national company... With your recommendation I will find an appropriate box with glands and rectify the problem! I will take photos when I'm done.

As far as I know the council doesn't need to be notified because there was an existing garage with power, (you guys would've freaked out if you saw the wiring for that, but no photos sadly!).

Once the box is fitted it will be a massive improvement on what was already in place.

 

[Upton Sparks]

I like that High tower!... your right I don't know if it needs Notification as I've not done the a site survey, but its should be one of the first question you think off when working on outside electrics..... And there is the difference there, in your own home you can pretty much do what you like with impunity, but Part P is a Law and you can be prosecuted for non complying..... not that you would think that with the number of prosecution ...

Lolopopo.... if its temporary why don't you just run an extension lead out ?

http://www.screwfix.com/p/ip65-adap...gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIyB7aafz9QCFQoS0wodje8HxQ

you could use that box from screw a 20mm hole for the SWA and use a stuffing gland for the Twin and earth.... or buy an extension lead with an RCD plug.

 

[davesparks]

I know my degree isn't wholly relevant, I was just giving some background, I'm not a DIYer who's gone too far, I've designed, tested, and had approved circuitry for safety systems and modules used in building management systems for a multi national company...

Lovely, but how does that apply to carrying out electrical installation work. As far as I am aware designing and approving safety systems is a very different set of rules and regulations to be working under.

 

[Specialist]

Wow... Calm down guys, yes I sleep well at night because the box isn't live, I kill the supply when it's not in use as mentioned above. It was a temporary measure that I've only just got round to addressing.

I know my degree isn't wholly relevant, I was just giving some background, I'm not a DIYer who's gone too far, I've designed, tested, and had approved circuitry for safety systems and modules used in building management systems for a multi national company... With your recommendation I will find an appropriate box with glands and rectify the problem! I will take photos when I'm done.

As far as I know the council doesn't need to be notified because there was an existing garage with power, (you guys would've freaked out if you saw the wiring for that, but no photos sadly!).

Once the box is fitted it will be a massive improvement on what was already in place.

Actually in this instance a DIY'er that's gone too far, is exactly what you are.
You say you've designed safety systems, yet in the work you've shown us you seem to have shown total disregard for safety. You say it's isolated when not in use, but by the same token when in use it must be live & therefore Dangerous.

As for not needing to call an Electrician, I beg to differ. Going on what you've shown then you most certainly do.