Outside Lighting

[StffDhyn]

Hello Guys, Im a pub manager and im trying to save money. Before i call a sparky out. I have a number of floodlights on a timer however between midnight and 6am no one is in the pub so wasting energy (Have to have lights as we get broken in to and for CCTV) i Was thinking of getting someone in to install PIR lights in key areas and to save money i was wondering if they could run them from the permenant live in the emergency lights?

 

[ipf]

Have you tried altering the timer ?

 

[MDJ]

Hello Guys, Im a pub manager ?

Mines a pint of dry cider tonight please I have a thirst on here

 

[StffDhyn]

yeah that will turn them off but have a condition on my licence that the car park and smking area have to have lighting wether its PIR or normal

 

[markc123]

Mines a pint of dry cider tonight please I have a thirst on here

Shocked, you strike me as the WKD type of man Mike :lol:

 

[tazz]

Re: PIR Lighting and Emergency Lighting

Be best to run them from the same circuit they are already supplied from, if that is the same circuit as the em lighting then fine. Best suggestion is install new eternal pirs to a contactor near the time switch

 

[MDJ]

Best to let the guy or DIYer you get in to look at the job, there may be an easy alternative

 

[StffDhyn]

Im not going to do the work myself its just i get charged for getting a sparky in so if the regulations won't allow it theres no point.

 

[trev]

PIRs would be fairly easily fitted but for your best options call a local spark. There's one on here by the name of essexboy, I'll send him a PM on your behalf

 

[StffDhyn]

there the floodlights that take 5 minutes to warm up though so wanted standalone halogen ones on the side

 

[telectrix]

go for LED floods on PIRs. that way you'll save in 2 ways. 1. lights only come on intermittently.2. LED floods use only a fraction of the power when on. so a no brainer.

 

[Adam W]

If you have these security lights fed from the emergency feed you'd have to either cut the emergency feed which will mean they're discharging, or the security lights will keep coming on throughout the night, which will kill the atmosphere.

Couldn't you just leave the exit lights on overnight? Maybe use night vision CCTV cameras?
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[Outspoken]

FFS, this is amateur stuff Guys and you all seem to be struggling with it.

The Time clock for the lights can be removed and the timing circuit bypassed, the feed out to the lights (New Lights, get rid of the SONs) then simply needs a stand-alone PIR inserted, either one or one for each light...simples

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I don't know where you are, I know Essex well (I have probably drank in your pub!), but if you need a sparky who will do you a fantastic job without ribbing you i would suggest you contact Justin Vickery of Vickery Electrical in Witham, any of his boys will do you proud (01376 519933, his mobile is 07710233142)

 

[Marvo]

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[Engineer54]

Personally, i wouldn't bother taking the timer out of circuit, it removes the possibility of the PIR's adjustments becoming faulty and operating throughout the daylight hours!! Haven't yet found one, that has a decent lifespan before something goes wrong with them!!