oven on a plug top

[haj]

Customer wants to plug his new oven into the kitchen ring i said that it still needed to be on its own supply even though its on a plug. What do you all thinl ?
Cheers

 

[mystic_carp]

whats the load?

 

[haj]

2300w fan i say own supply for isolation purposes aswell

 

[Notsosmart]

I suspect on that rating the oven is a built in single oven (no hob) if so it can be plugged into the ring but for isolation purposes then a 20A d,p, switch above the worktop can control it.

If you feel doubtful & want the customer to agree to add another circuit try the following tact; "the problem with kitchens is the loading is always the highest in the house & adding another 2.3 kw, all be-it intermittently, increases the risk of onerloading the circuit" (especially if washing machine, tumble drier & dishwasher are installed)

 

[spaldingsparks]

The cooker usually is on its own circuit with a cooker outlet plate and separate isolation switch for emergency's this circuit can be down rated to 16amp at the DB and a socket fitted but I would not plug the cooker into a rink main I would advise your customer it may well lead to overloading of the circuit have you worked out the total loading of the ringmain and checked that the socket is not a spur from a spur.
some small belling counter top cookers are designed to plug in to a ring it isnt one of those is it,if so check the manufactures info it could be ok.

 

[Spudnik]

Any cooking appliance rated at 2kW and above should have its own dedicated radial from the CU to prevent the RFC from being loaded for long periods.

However, if a new radial is not possible then it may be plugged into the ring, but i would say, only if its a dedicated kitchen RFC.

 

[Sintra]

Any cooking appliance rated at 2kW and above should have its own dedicated radial from the CU to prevent the RFC from being loaded for long periods.

Jason is there a reg for this?
Had a quick look the other day but didn't find it.

 

[haj]

Any cooking appliance rated at 2kW and above should have its own dedicated radial from the CU to prevent the RFC from being loaded for long periods.

However, if a new radial is not possible then it may be plugged into the ring, but i would say, only if its a dedicated kitchen RFC.

Hi Jason i have pulled the cooker circuit back from the otherside of the kitchen and put a ccu on ready then the cooker comes with a plug on so customer thinks just bang it in a socket i say no it still needs to be on its own supply to prevent overloading the ring. Sounds as if i made the right call.
Thanks

Thaks eveyone for all your views.
Regards Haj

 

[hotXbun]

Out of interest .... no dissent ... but (and there's always a but ) .....

If an appliance comes with a lead ending in a moulded plug, I just make the assumption that it van only be 13 amps rating simply because it's a 13 amp plug .....

So, even if it's a cooker, with a plug on the end it doesn't need a dedicated circuit. Am I wrong?

 

[haj]

Dam good question !

 

[Spudnik]

Out of interest .... no dissent ... but (and there's always a but ) .....

If an appliance comes with a lead ending in a moulded plug, I just make the assumption that it van only be 13 amps rating simply because it's a 13 amp plug .....

So, even if it's a cooker, with a plug on the end it doesn't need a dedicated circuit. Am I wrong?

Read my previous post, carefully.

 

[hotXbun]

Read my previous post, carefully.

I did but as I have no idea what an RFC is I didn't include it in my thinking. Now go ahead and tell me what it means ..... and I'll shall have the load lightened

 

[Risteard]

I did but as I have no idea what an RFC is I didn't include it in my thinking. Now go ahead and tell me what it means ..... and I'll shall have the load lightened

Ring Final Circuit.

 

[Eggster71]

I thought the building regs called for a dedicated cooker supply irrespective of if the oven's gas or electric. This will allow for "eventualities" such as the next person buying the house installing a massive range oven!
The electrical regs also state that good practice is a major part of compliance and I'd say installing a cooker circuit was good practice!

 

[haj]

I TOTALLY AGREE SPOT ON MATE.