Part P Face and my view on it

[westward10]

So just been to see sister in law who has had her en suite redone, electrics done by bathroom peoples "electrician". So no rcd protection, cpcs unconnected at fan isolator, flex for cabinet lights on unenclosed block connector in wall cavity, underfloor heating and a new socket for the bedroom both on a radial from the existing ring final with no circuit protection but this bit does have existing additional rcd protection. I wanted to pull a downlight out but didn't want to damage the ceiling, dread to think how they are connected. Apparently they have finished and will be sending her a Certificate for Part P compliance, not on my watch he won't be. He is going to rue the day he opened his tool box in that house.

 

[Pete999]

agree pete, unfortunately the schemes dont randomly select jobs to inspect, the contractor tells them what jobs he's done and can basically show them the 'good installs' by the good lads and not bother with the shi*e ones!

Exactly, a fit up all around.

 

[Pete999]

I just know the guys gonna feel 2 foot tall when your finished with him

Why don't we make him feel 2ft under, kin waster

 

[Octopus]

One well known national bathroom company think it's perfectly acceptable to vent bathrooms into the loft space!

 

[Pete999]

One well known national bathroom company think it's perfectly acceptable to vent bathrooms into the loft space!

Just a point of interest, how many schemes, certifying organisations are there within the "Gas safe" certification method? is it just the one, or are there similar money making cadres like the electrical industry?

 

[Ian1981]

One well known national bathroom company think it's perfectly acceptable to vent bathrooms into the loft space!

Some new builds you can only vent through the loft into the sofit as bathroom is not on an external wall but insulated foil duct is used.
I've never thought much of it to be honest.

 

[Anthony S]

Some new builds you can only vent through the loft into the sofit as bathroom is not on an external wall but insulated foil duct is used.
I've never thought much of it to be honest.

He means vent into a loft space without an external vent to the outer elements.

 

[Ian1981]

He means vent into a loft space without an external vent to the outer elements.

Oh right sorry

 

[Anthony S]

Oh right sorry

No worries

 

[7029 dave]

It has all gone to pot, this trade is in a right old mess, cash cows coining it in,it don't mean jack.I was one of the lucky to have worked in this industry in the good old days.!

 

[Octopus]

Some new builds you can only vent through the loft into the sofit as bathroom is not on an external wall but insulated foil duct is used.
I've never thought much of it to be honest.

The muppets I refer to just vent into the loft, no external route, nothing...

 

[Wilko]

Sorry to hear that Westie, I'm glad you're there to sort it.
I do my work the best I know, and if I don't know, I'll ask (hence some of my dumb questions here...). Just wondering, do we think these folks know better but couldn't be bothered, or ?

 

[Midwest]

The muppets I refer to just vent into the loft, no external route, nothing...

Problem is some 'customers' can't see anything wrong in that. Had a customer this week suggesting such, when I recommended a contractor to put a roof vent for his new bathroom extractor fan, 'it'll be alright'!

 

[telectrix]

customers are happy with a loft that's boiling hot in summer and freezing cold in winter as long as they save a few quid on the gas bill. why not be happy to have it damp as well? anyway, the 3 foot thick insulation will soak it up for the next 25 years, when it's time to rip it all out because it's then branded as a health risk.

 

[Anthony S]

It has all gone to pot, this trade is in a right old mess, cash cows coining it in,it don't mean jack.I was one of the lucky to have worked in this industry in the good old days.!

Its rife out there with chancer's who believe they are electricians and don't know why they install xyz and can not test their own work.

 

[westward10]

I try and avoid doing things for friends and family unless it is an emergency and I could have done this and notified it through the company I work for and my boss would have okayed it. But she said they use a good electrician who is Part P registered but I was actually quite shocked by the standard of work. I dread to think how he has connected from the existing ring final for the socket and underfloor heating spur. Our industry has gone to pot and the choice of getting the contractor back to correct works he has made such a hash of as opposed to directly contacting his scheme provider first is a joke.