Part P Face and my view on it

[westward10]

So just been to see sister in law who has had her en suite redone, electrics done by bathroom peoples "electrician". So no rcd protection, cpcs unconnected at fan isolator, flex for cabinet lights on unenclosed block connector in wall cavity, underfloor heating and a new socket for the bedroom both on a radial from the existing ring final with no circuit protection but this bit does have existing additional rcd protection. I wanted to pull a downlight out but didn't want to damage the ceiling, dread to think how they are connected. Apparently they have finished and will be sending her a Certificate for Part P compliance, not on my watch he won't be. He is going to rue the day he opened his tool box in that house.

 

[Pete999]

I'm afraid the sort of carp everyone is complaining about won't go away until qither some gets hurt, or someone collates the info and goes into print to the people that can do something about it, we all moan but do nowt.

 

[telectrix]

shame we're not an ethnic minority, then diane abrott would gob off in parliament.

 

[Ian1981]

The muppets I refer to just vent into the loft, no external route, nothing...

Unbelievable

 

[Octopus]

Unbelievable

Precisely

in the middle of the winter, pumping hot mist air into a cold loft s only going to create ..... damp....

 

[paul291277]

Interesting point Pete, but surely it can only be advantageous, costwise/servicewise to us sparks to have a little bit of competition from them

 

[Rpa07]

If you could see electricity leaking it would all be different. That's why there are probably not so many chancers in the plumbing industry because it's so obvious if it doesn't work, same with gas you'll smell it.
Leccy is silent until it all goes Pete tong and 'Turkey water park' happens.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Just a point of interest, how many schemes, certifying organisations are there within the "Gas safe" certification method? is it just the one, or are there similar money making cadres like the electrical industry?

I think it is just gas safe the one set up that has a government awarded contract. if electrics went that way then you could almost guarantee niceic would get it and then would have a captive market to charge what ever crazy price they like. at least with likes of stroma, napit etc.. they have to at least try and compete.. i actually would not want just one regulator as they would screw us over.. the annual costs of these schemes are only going up.. like any business they charge what they think the market will support. with no competition they are a law unto themselves.

 

[Risteard]

would have a captive market to charge what ever crazy price they like.

In all likelihood if it was a licence handed out by central government to operate the only scheme then they would not be able to run it for a profit and as the only scheme operating would be able to operate it cheaper than with multiple schemes due to the increased numbers of contractors registered.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

In all likelihood if it was a licence handed out by central government to operate the only scheme then they would not be able to run it for a profit and as the only scheme operating would be able to operate it cheaper than with multiple schemes due to the increased numbers of contractors registered.

is Certsure Llp the people who run niceic and elecsa supposedly non for profit as its a partnership between the ECA and electrical safety first... i might be wrong..

i would like to think though if there was just one body overseeing electricians then it would be for non profit and actually enforce standards and deal with cowboys too.

 

[streamer]

Maybe we should all club together and start another scheme - it seems anyone can do it! Licence to print money! But then I think a good conscience would get in the way of actually admitting enough members.

 

[NDG Elecs]

Maybe we should all club together and start another scheme - it seems anyone can do it! Licence to print money! But then I think a good conscience would get in the way of actually admitting enough members.

Not a bad idea at all. Estate agents did exactly that by starting onthemarket.com, as many of them were getting charged exorbitant rates for being on Rightmove.
Would take some effort and organisation though.

 

[westward10]

Email received by bathroom fitters who are passing on the issues to the "electrician" we shall what ensues.

 

[Octopus]

is Certsure Llp the people who run niceic and elecsa supposedly non for profit as its a partnership between the ECA and electrical safety first... i might be wrong..

Its almost impossible to understand the financial activities of Certsure....which is another reason not to trust them

 

[valleybilly]

Its not just part p its everything. Devolution the EU u name it . as long as the suits make a killing they just dont give a dam, all we are to them is a market .

 

[westward10]

Our "electrician" is coming this afternoon to discuss the problems, doesn't know I am coming to greet him with a cup of cold tea