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Hi all, ive just registered with ELECSA (Domestic Scope A) and have my assessments coming up in a few weeks. I wanted to know from someone who has done the same and passed. What sort of stuff was they wanting and do they expect u2know the 17th page4page?n e advice?:confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Part p-lighting Questions

can anyone tell me if bathroom lights have to be on an rcd??Im pretty gemmed up on most regs but ive just been told that this also needs to be done.Personally ive never heard of this??????
 
Building regulation Part P, like all the other parts of the building regs is here to stay. The only thing that can change is the way it is implemented and controlled. I agree with all who say that the way it is policed at the moment is totally unworkable and despite being registered myself i disagree with it.

I would much rather be on some sort of licence scheme like in Australia, and the government if they are so strongly in favour of stopping people being killed would restrict the sale of all but the basic electrical fittings to the general public.

At the moment i feel like a cash cow to Elecsa, my annual assessment is imminent at a cost of £475.00. I have not decided yet as to whether or not to renew. Over the past year most of my work has been on property which has had planning permission so notification is not needed, the jobs i have done that did require notification i could absorb the LABC fees into, so I am going to call Leeds LABC and see what the crack is.

Maybe the only way to force the governments hand would be for all of us to deregister then what would happen?

Cheers.............Howard
 
part p does not apply in Scotland and does not have to be followed. I think this seems strange as I was on a course and was speaking about it and I was informed that if you work for an english based company you will be put through the part P course just incase you happen to be sent to england to do any work for them!
 
'Part P' is an attempt to protect those who live in a dwelling. It is a subset of the electrical profession.

PartP has formalised the situation such that it is now an illegal act if for work to be carried out by someone who is deemed to be incompetent. If the person doing the work is competent but rubbish, then at least the client has a recognised means of seeking attention.

There is no trauma. Even a fully 'I know it all properly certified electrician' would have to become a member of a registered body simply because there isn't any real choice. The Client needs to know the person doing the work is competent, as does the Insurance Co, and indeed the Lawyer if the dwelling changes hands, and it's no good just shouting out you are a qualified person because it don't mean a thing!

What is the alternative? Back to the good old days where 'Eddie did it!' or move on and accept that PartP is a recognised and worthy part of the electrical agenda. Perhaps we should look upon PartP not so much as a nuisance rather than a stepping stone to a more rational approach to Competent Electricians in all areas.....

Perhaps the way forward is for all electricians to become 'Competent'. Remove the marketing issues and let all the governing bodies coalesce into one glorious empire ..... I put myself forward for Chairman ..... oops, sorry, lost the plot .... I love digressing, especially when putting labels on CU's.... where was I

Yes, I think PartP has a place as it allows for competent people to focus on a particular area. Maybe the area of focus needs to be adjusted but no doubt there will be quite a delay while the committee pontificates..... :rolleyes:
 
No disrespect to other trades meant here,BUT,we are probably the most certificated trade out there, you have to have this you have to have that,part p,city&guilds,nvq's,17th edition,2391 etc etc etc.Where does it end..!! we seem to bear the brunt of a complete bunch of ----ers sat at desks with nothing better to do (and who probably have no electrical qualifications or experience of the real world) Make it illegal to buy anything from the likes of b&q apart from a plug top fuse...!!! and leave the real work to the professionals such as ourselves. Paper chasing a...holes the lot of them. Rant over,pressure released..!! :D:D:D
 
but part P isn't a qualification, it's compliance. Once you apply (if you do) to Niceic for example they'll need to assec your compatancy and see if your working accourding to the regs e.g part p, so u got to know it, just read it up, and save the bucks;)
 

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