PAT flex outlets feeding wall heater

[oldtimer]

So why is the PAT testing C&G Qualification, rated as a level 3 electrical qualification!! Bloody farce all round!!

Totally agree with you but remember the people in the know have allowed this to happen ie when ISI&TEE came out PAT was nice go to abreviation and the majority of it was portable appliances plus the Scheme providers who rushed to say that it was a semi skilled job and by the way we can sell you the course are now giving it err emm is this fixed appliance thing a problem with the colleges saying you know full well it is. Plus ISI&TEE edition 4 was meant to clarify things to say that FAs must be included in the ISI&TEE visit but as I said PAT specific companies are writing their own rules and keeping the urban mythes going such as.

1. Only equipment with a plug on it need be tested.(well NO)
2. Fixed appliances come under fixed wiring testing (so how come its in ISI&TEE COP)
3. You must get your equipment tested every year. (No you must risk asses the period)
4. An electrician is not qualified to do PAT testing. (O yes he or she is)
5. You must have a C&G qualification to do PAT testing. (Since when)
6. Don't listen to anyone else we are the professionals (Thats been my biggest complaint)
7. We are NICEIC certified and specialize in PAT testing are they (You & me) certified

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I havent read all the posts in this thread, but i will throw any bit in anyway. For my sins i teach C&G Pat testing amongst other stuff, and so i have given the C of P 4th edition a good look at, and altered my course content to suit.

Anyone doing electrical work or Pat testing does not need to have qualifications of any kind. They do however need to be competent (Electricity At Work regulations 1989). A Competent person is described in the definitions in both BS7671 and C of p 4th Edition. I respect ste77's and others opinions, but i have to disagree with them as they are mis informed. Every piece of equipment, that does not form part of the fixed installation, but that is either permanently connected to it (except luminaires) by means of a FCU or similar, or plugged into it requires In service Inspection and Test, and although records need not be kept, it is advisable, (Electricity At Work regs 1989 again).

There has been a change to the frequency of inspection and test, and a get out clause.
You can now work from the frequency table as before, but can now decide by risk assessment whether or not to increase or decrease insp and test frequency. It also goes on to say, that is also acceptable to carry out all the testing in a particular location at the same time (subject to this and that), or words to that effect. Regarding equipment that is permanently connected , then as long as the insp and test frequency aligns with the frequency of the fixed installation, then it can be done at that time.

There is a page dedicated to the fixed installation in the new COP.

Cheers............Howard