Pat testing issue

[James]

The Neutral wired to the Earth pin may be a problem ...

Only if there’s one of those pesky rcd things involved!!!

 

[DPG]

You've obviously made up your mind already, so not sure why you asked the question in the first place.

 

[dj2102]

You've obviously made up your mind already, so not sure why you asked the question in the first place.

To make sure and I like to have a few opinions

 

[westward10]

It is the appliance which is Class II not the plug which cannot be Class II.

 

[dj2102]

It is the appliance which is Class II not the plug which cannot be Class II.

So the plug is not the part of the appliance???
Is your leg part of the body ???

 

[westward10]

So the plug is not the part of the appliance???
Is your leg part of the body ???

Depends how you look at it, the appliance is tested for Class II requirements but the plug falls under different standards and is not a Class II part whether the appliance it connects is Class II or not.

 

[DPG]

A class II appliance could be fed from an FCU. By your logic the FCU shouldn't gave an earth.

 

[dj2102]

A class II appliance could be fed from an FCU. By your logic the FCU shouldn't gave an earth.

But this is not mobile appliance.

 

[westward10]

But this is not mobile appliance.

No but it may be subject to routine inspection and treats.

 

[dj2102]

No but it may be subject to routine inspection and treats.

So for me mobile appliance should have exactly have exactly the same wire as it left the factory. Fully moulded plug with cable.

 

[westward10]

Not necessarily things get damaged and replaced. A non factory fitted cord and plug does not necessarily mean the appliance is no longer fit for purpose.

 

[pirate]

Lets suppose your Class11 appliance had a moulded plug with a plastic earth pin, and unfortunately someone stood on the plug and the earth pin snapped off. It's going to be tricky plugging it in to some sockets. Do you throw the appliance away, or put on a new standard plug with an earth pin?
The latter, methinks.

 

[westward10]

Lets suppose your Class11 appliance had a moulded plug with a plastic earth pin, and unfortunately someone stood on the plug and the earth pin snapped off. It's going to be tricky plugging it in to some sockets. Do you throw the appliance away, or put on a new standard plug with an earth pin?
The latter, methinks.

The amount of broken off plastic earth pins I have had to tease out of a socket.

 

[dj2102]

Not necessarily things get damaged and replaced. A non factory fitted cord and plug does not necessarily mean the appliance is no longer fit for purpose.

But I am thinking only about The class II appliance.

 

[westward10]

But I am thinking only about The class II appliance.

I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you testing these appliances?