PAT. Visual Inspection Only

[hubsy]

Hi Guys,

I've found Blue PAT appliance labels.(on good old Ebay)

They say Passed, Visual Inspection Only, Electrical Safety Test.

I'm reading through the 4th edition, but has amyone else come across this type of label?

They have a retest box, but that is not required for the 4th edition.

 

[hazelm]

Hi Guys,

I've found Blue PAT appliance labels.(on good old Ebay)

They say Passed, Visual Inspection Only, Electrical Safety Test.

I'm reading through the 4th edition, but has amyone else come across this type of label?

They have a retest box, but that is not required for the 4th edition.

Not yet.

At this company, with 4,300 appliances and 1,000 unpaid volunteers, it is our "best practice" to include the retest date. It it is so easy for appliances not to be found then to turn up at a different location over a 40 mile railway.

 

[markc123]

A blue PAT sticker for visual only.

lol.

Zero point in that whatsoever.

 

[hubsy]

4th edition excludes retest date, forces viewing of test results register.
but I agree that retest date should be filled in.


But I'm asking about these Blue labels legality of use.

 

[markc123]

Like i said, i can't see a point in them...what is the point in having a sticker that says well done it doesn't look broken - especially when the T in PAT stands for testing. Just someone with a stupid idea trying to make a quick buck - avoid them like the plague.

 

[Darkwood]

Chocolate fireguard comes to mind :****:

I see they have edited the Emoticons and taken out the possible offensive lol did wonder how long they would be usable.

 

[monkeyelectric]

There's as much point in them as a handbrake in a canoe

 

[markc123]

Second that.

Blue PAT stickers are just like earthing...what's the point?

:38:

 

[Marnik]

Hawkesworth have been using "Visual only" stickers for years!! I've noticed these in my local Sainsbury's. Guess where? Yess the monitors and printers which are fed fronm PSU's, which of course are ELV and do not come under the scope of PAT. Money-making scam me thinks.

 

[oldtimer]

4th edition excludes retest date, forces viewing of test results register.
but I agree that retest date should be filled in.


But I'm asking about these Blue labels legality of use.

Watch what you are doing with the retest date I scratch through it and on the seaward seminar it was explained as some PAT abusing their position by marking a retest date so they are now saying the the person responsable for PAT should risk asses the environment to decide the retest period you may say that your retest date is advisory but you could be held legally responsable for going against the COP

 

[hazelm]

Watch what you are doing with the retest date I scratch through it and on the seaward seminar it was explained as some PAT abusing their position by marking a retest date so they are now saying the the person responsable for PAT should risk asses the environment to decide the retest period you may say that your retest date is advisory but you could be held legally responsable for going against the COP

The owner of the property is responsible for the frequency of all tests. However, as I am doing all 4,300 in house, that responsibility has been passed to me so we will continue to mark the retest date.

However, with regard to the blue colour stickers, the 4th edition just shows one green colour in the example. Therefore, should all stickers be green?

 

[UNG]

IMO a visual check should be done everyday by the person using the appliance they after all are their own safety officer. A full PATest should be carried out by a competent person at frequency deemed neccessary by the appliances use and abuse.

This whole thing of a company turning up and doing PAT testing and then making excuses for not completing the job properly and only doing visual inspections for whatever reason is totally wrong and is misleading for the customer

 

[Brightspark2]

However, as I am doing all 4,300 in house

I feel for you there...

I'd contemplate leaving if that was me...

 

[Risteard]

Like i said, i can't see a point in them...what is the point in having a sticker that says well done it doesn't look broken - especially when the T in PAT stands for testing. Just someone with a stupid idea trying to make a quick buck - avoid them like the plague.

But PAT is not an officially-recognised term. It is In-Service Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment. The inspection is the most important part of the process so I don't see anything wrong with labelling an item which does not require testing.

Having said that, although it is considered to be good practise, there is no requirement to apply labels to assets following so-called PAT Testing.

 

[jibjob]

I use green visual stickers on items that can't be electrically tested (earth continuity or IR) such as a class II item with no exposed conductive parts, a ceramic table lamp for instance. However, I'll check the fuse is of the correct rating, that the cable & appliance are not damaged in any way & carry out a functional check.
Never seen blue stickers before, only green. Oh & red of course