Path from Domestic Installer to JIB.

[CRog92]

Hi Guys,

I'm looking at doing a course to become a DI but I don't want to just be doing residential maintenance forever, i'd like to work on site eventually but have been told I would not be able to unless I work as a mate or do the 2365 level 2 and 3 and the NVQ 3 after and I don't have the funds at the moment to do the 2365 and so on.

The course I'm looking at doing gives me the following quals:

Principles of Electro Technology – City & Guilds 4141-02
Domestic Installation Workshop – City & Guilds 4141-01.
Part P Domestic Installers Course – City & Guilds 2393.
17th Edition Wiring Regulations - City & Guilds 2382-15.
Inspection & Testing Course – City & Guilds 2392-10.
PAT Testing - City & Guilds 2377-22 & 2377-32

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Squid]

Out of interest what is the old 236/1 and 236/2 in todays world and are they still honoured?

 

[uksrevivor]

Yes I think that’s correct but don’t you need your level 2 2365 to be considered for the level 3 2365.

So in theory I believe you’ll need them both.

Very true m8 you cannot gain the level 3 2365 without the level 2 qualification first, if you could jump straight into the level 3 then everyone would of done it as it would be cheaper and a year less at college.
Agree with massive 1 on his first post im sure these courses are made up and to the OP always remember your qualifications mean nothing if you have no experience to put them into practice. It is a long route to becoming a JIB Gold card holder and there will be requirements you need to achieve before progressing onto the next level for example you will not even be considered for an NVQ level 3 without the previous level 2 and 3 diplomas and the same will apply for the AM2 examination as well.

 

[Simonslimline]

If you do the 2357 day release you start off on level 3.

This is the apprenticeship route though.

 

[JAWS]

If you do the 2357 day release you start off on level 3.

This is the apprenticeship route though.

I thought apprenticeship was the 5357 not the 2357

 

[Simonslimline]

I thought apprenticeship was the 5357 not the 2357

Yes possibly, i cant keep up. It seems to change every week!
It was the 2357 when i did it. Either way, you would start on level 3 with this particular route.

 

[MattyStill]

I'd like to give an alternative opinion here. They are two very different routes to take and each can provide a decent wage..the full three year 2635 level 2 and 3 and am2 then NVQ level 3 will give you a gold card. And there is obviously some snobbery within the industry....A course which is very intensive to get part p accredited would enable you to design install test and certificate your own work in domestic properties which a gold card won't allow you to.Half of the 2365 will be metal munching and you won't get involved in design or calculations as this is done by the electrical design engineer.....They also tend to have charge hands or supervisor telling what to do and most of time will be fitting containment.... being responsible for a big house will involve complicated lighting with multiple grid switch and light circuits switching from a few positions over a few floors often using a combo of live and SW live and live and SL with joined neutrals feeding the switch and two way and intermediate all in the same grid.. you'll also get involved in audio and visual and smart home tech. Armoured supply to out building etc.....And if you haven't come across it before you can't simply ask your boss, you have to learn it for yourself you also have to make good and are responsible for much neater work....I think they have become very different and being a job good card holder won't necessarily help in domestic installs any more than not being able to bend conduit which is not easy either......my last point is that the comments are correct in that get a qualification is worthless without actually working with people who know what there doing.....both avenues can be rewarding but make a decision what area you'd prefer. working as a mate on site fitting cable tray is no more helpful I domestic as house bashing is if you need to terminate big armoured cables and work on three phase....I know I'll get hammered for this bug it's a fact!. Its a shame they don't do a year or two on the principles and then allow to complete units on your main area moving forward