Pendant light with no colour coded wires

[md77]

Hi.....I'm new to the forum so go easy please

I had to get my ceiling replastered and my pendant light was removed, however there's no colour coding other than the earth. I've a single wire and 2 others tied together so I'm not sure what's neutral and what's live. I've stripped back some of the wires but still no colour coding. Is there anyway to check what's what before I attempt to fit the light?

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Do you have any form of tester?

 

[Marvo]

Can you show us a pic of the fitting and one of the wiring? You should be able to use the 'upload a file' button to include photos in your reply as long as the file sixes aren't too large.

 

[md77]

Unfortunately no.... But my post should have been clearer....the wires I'm referring to are on the light itself

 

[md77]

No to the testing equipment, photos coming shortly

 

[Rpa07]

I'll bet it's the new breed of customer bought lights having see through insulation on the single that is differenciated by the slightest of blue streaks along the length of the insulation and is nigh impossible to see unless you ironically have a light working - I could be wrong, will await photos.

 

[Jamchiv01]

Typical Pendant Wiring:

Without a continuity tester, I wouldn't even attempt to wire the light as you could wire it incorrect and cause a short circuit. Either call a electrician out to look at it, or get a continuity tester.

EDIT: just saw your post saying it's on the light itsself, ignore my drawing

 

[Jamchiv01]

I'll bet it's the new breed of customer bought lights having see through insulation on the single that is differenciated by the slightest of blue streaks along the length of the insulation and is nigh impossible to see unless you ironically have a light working - I could be wrong, will await photos.

I saw one the other day that had a white streak, and the other had nothing. ES fitting and polarity was incorrect by whoever installed it. Lucky they didn't change the lamp in it.

Think they said they got it from John Lewis.

 

[Rpa07]

Typical Pendant Wiring:

EDIT: just saw your post saying it's on the light itsself, ignore my drawing

Your drawings are great - not quite Richard Burns great but you're not far behind - keep it coming.

 

[Jamchiv01]

Your drawings are great - not quite Richard Burns great but you're not far behind - keep it coming.

Thanks, Pictures tell 1000 words.

 

[md77]

I'm struggling to upload photos.....Rpa07, you're right, it's the see through insulation but I can't see the blue line even with a torch on it. I'll try to get the photos uploaded, in the meantime, would the light have 2 lives or 2 neutrals?

 

[Jamchiv01]

1 Line 1 Neutral

 

[buzzlightyear]

still waiting.

 

[md77]

That's what I thought but I have 4 wires, 1 earth and 3 unknowns, 2.of which are taped together so I'm assuming they're the same

 

[Jamchiv01]

4 wires to one light would suggest there's 2 lamp holders, is this the case?