periodic report ????????

[Mike Watters]

guys here are the results of a periodic report and i want to know what you think of the codes given, i feel they are not correct. the house has 4 floors containing 10 studio flats. each flat has a consumer unit. on the page containing particulars of installation at the origin the guy gave earthing conductor as being 16mm sq copper and clicked continuity check ok. now look at first fault reported.

faults
1 Inadequate main earthing conductor. needs 16 mm2. code 1 given
2 no cpc on any lighting circuit code 1 given
3 finger access to consumer units code 1 given
4 inadequate sub mains to each room. exceeding max currant carrying cap. discon times not met. code 1
5 cables feeding water heaters in zone 1 in bathroom clipped direct and not allowed in zone 1. code 2
6 no mechanicalprotection for cables serving coin meters and other equipment. code 1
7 bathroom lights not suitable code 1
8 washing machine in bathroom zone 2 not rcd protected or fixed code 1
9 rcd not tripping in time code 1
10 no equipotential bonding to gas water code 1
11 not enough sockets in each room code 2
12 damaged sockets code 1
13 no live conductor identified at switches, no cpc sleeve or grommets. code 2
14 no rcd on bathroom water heaters.

the guy then quoted 18000 to rewire the whole house.
also the lighting circuits have no cpc, so i understand i can put plastic screws and use class two gear and rcd and lable at cu, but where do i stand with unearthed metal back boxes. thanks

 

[spark 68]

What is the earthing system ?

 

[trev]

Most of these codes are a joke imho. It seems to me that he is painting a dangerous picture to score £18k. I don't suppose he backed up any of these codings with references to the regs did he?

 

[fuzzydunlop]

Pretty scandalous imo, what scheme is he with?

 

[Mike Watters]

he is niceic approved the system is tns

 

[Rockingit]

Most of the 1's are 2's at best, and the 2's 4's, and some of them wouldn't even really code if they were previously compliant.

This smacks not only of someone looking to make a fast buck, but who also is insufficiently trained and skilled in periodic inspection.

 

[Mike Watters]

now the council are giving loads of trouble to the owner and saying if he dont do the works he will have a 5k fine and they will do the works and charge him. also the letter from council says the works must be done by an approved niceic contractor, are they allowed to say that.

 

[fuzzydunlop]

If the property is let to council tenants they can specify NICEIC

Id be on the phone to NICEIC first thing Tuesday making a complaint

 

[trev]

If the property was let to council tenants wouldn't it be owned by the council. They'll call for an NIC spark because that's all they know, get a proper PIR done by someone who knows what he is doing and see what's coded then. A PIR should always be referenced to the regs ie "This is wrong because of reg ---.---"

 

[Mike Watters]

no private lets. if any spark is interested in joining me on this job then get in touch. im only 2 years in this game so i need a hand to put things right. get back to me. starting mon 2nd or when ur avail.

 

[trev]

Where is it?

 

[Mike Watters]

im off out to tesco, back in an hour

 

[Mike Watters]

trev its west london

 

[Rockingit]

Where in the country are you Mike?

 

[mogga]

now the council are giving loads of trouble to the owner and saying if he dont do the works he will have a 5k fine and they will do the works and charge him. also the letter from council says the works must be done by an approved niceic contractor, are they allowed to say that.

NICEIC Id question against "Restrictive practices" as there are other schams out there such as Elescs,Napit ect unless its council owned property then its up to the owner to specify and appoint a contractor to carry out the work IMO ( Check with lawer about this as 18K and threat of fine arent to be taken lightly )
As for the works there is nothing like a second opinion ( Im sure there are some guys from forum would be glad to assist you
Cooncils should IMO Be made to clarify things across the board and all condform to same set of rules each seem to have their own wee world of petty pem pushers who havent got a scooby what they are talking about