PIR of Full elec cert

[leokiss]

Looked at a job earlier,part of a house has become a 1 bed bedsit already has a C/U just upgrading to split rcd board (it has all new fixtures n fittings not fitted by me). Not lived in yet the client wants a test cert,no existing info,wiring is red&black + earth.
Was gunna give a PIR but doubting it so thought i'd ask u guys.
Oh and what would you charge?,8 circuits the flat ones plus heating and ouside lights n censors (2 different circuits on 2 32A mcbs??).

 

[Guest123]

You would just issue an EIC for the CU upgrade only.

 

[leokiss]

But he has asked me to test all the circuits on that board.
If i was to issue an EIC just for C/U what would i test just mains? Or all i should probs point out its highly likely i will end up through crimping some wires,will this mean i now have to test the whole circuit surely i dont have to start messing with minor works too.

 

[Johno]

Sorry leokiss, but what the !"£$, when you do a CU change you have to test all circuits.

 

[leokiss]

im gettin 350 for the job includes materials. So what exactly do i test? Sorry it sound a bit dumb but i aint sure what 2 test. As i see it he asked for flat testin so im gunna test it,why turn the work down. I just not sure which cert 2 give?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

You need to test ALL the circuits you have worked on, it doesnt matter whether or not you have extended, shortened, or just reconnected into the CU. You then issue an EIC for the work. In the box on the cert where it says "EXTENT OF WORK COVERED BY THIS CERTIFICATE" or similar, you put in Consumer unit only.

Cheers........Hward

 

[thebassman]

Hi

I agree fully with last post EIC for consumer unit change and you need to test all circuits, the notes with certificates normally have notes on how to complete them, or check REG book it again gives you details of what you need to do all EIC i have issued have a page for test results to be entered

Danny

 

[nellyp]

I'd always try and test (PIR) before commiting to the work, you never know what's lurking in there!

This is a good guide to CU changes:

http://esc.org.uk/pdfs/business-and-community/electrical-industry/BPG1v2_web.pdf

Good to show the customer too.

Shows your profesional and not out to make a quick buck out of them.

 

[leokiss]

Cheers all for input,and for clearing it up,got myself a bit confused.Although ive been testing for a long time its been for large companys on new installs never issued my own certs before. And did testing 7 years ago so forgot about cert side of testing.
Been out and got guidence note 3 today so i can get up to scratch

 

[flukey]

this is notifiable work so if your not part P dont forget to involve your LABC and line their pockets

 

[ezzzekiel]

along with partp membership i presume ?

dont wish to appear rude but if you dont know which certificate would need to be issued for cu change then thats an indication of not being registered which means work is illegal.

 

[leokiss]

Im doing the work for the guy im subbing too he's niceic so under his company name,so it will all be legal.

 

[Graeme Harrold]

Id double check on the sub-ing out bit and still being compliant. Unless you are an employee then you are not covered as far as Im aware. Just be careful because if something does go wrong you are at the end of the finger pointing line

 

[ezzzekiel]

something just dosent sound right to me, but a full eic will need to be completed

 

[leokiss]

I understand your concerns but i have been a sub-contractor for a long time and i have tested new installs on schools,hospitals,apartments etc all for large companys like NG Baileysl, SES ,Emcor,G&H to name but a few. Does this mean all the work done for them wasn't legal? I understood that if the company you working is a member you are then under there wing as such and covered.The only thing im not sure bout is domestic certs and what to give what to do in situations that dont arise in new installs.
But you gotta start somewhere and been on this site only helps.
If i wasn't legal there are tens of thousands of sub-contractors out there working illegal! Maybe much more.