PIR of Full elec cert

[robskiing]

So in your case there should be a QS for the company you are subbing to and they oversee the design inspection and sign off the apropiate jobs

 

[leokiss]

That is correct,you dont even need to have 2391 to test if you in niceic as long as QS signs it off.
Got me thinking though about how it works with employment status though.
How it has worked for a long time now is a large Elec&Mech company get job then they break it up and sub it out to smaller firms who are all with Niceic or similar then all the sub-contractors who work for them on an hourly rate or price like myself do all the work and its the same for all trades weather it be dry liners, plumbers, or sparks.
The whole industry is like yhis now. Ive been on jobs where the elec contract is split between 4 elec companys.4 different areas but all on same job and on top of that you'll have BMS, F/A,Data and security contractors with most if not all subbing themselves to that smaller contractor.
Got me wondering now though what would happen if something went ---- up would it come back to me or that contractor,actually ive just answered my own question it would go back to company as their QS has signed it off.

 

[ezzzekiel]

you dont need 2391 to sign off with any scheme.

however to your question -

a full electrical installtion certificate to be completed as major work has been carried out (nwe c/u is classed as major)

a PIR would only be completed when a inspection only is carried out (this also involves a full test but nothing has been altered, just checked)

And a minor works - well for any minor work carried out (no new circuits or altering of protective devices etc)

 

[leokiss]

Ye cheers im getting there,didn't mean to sound like a cowboy just a little inexperienced domestic. I only want to do the job right which is why im interested in as many opitions/facts i can read.

 

[leokiss]

Took some of the advice on here and went back up to job and asked if he would accept PIR but he dosent as the guy im working for never told him of this (he's in oz by the way the reason im asking you guys all the questions and not him) So spent a hour or so doing a bit of an inspection and found the gas meter which is outside has no main bond.
Which according to best guide is a no starter unless he agrees to have it done.It would mean running surface through his newly decorated bedsit which he dosent want.
So whats the ways out here,could i if possible bond where it comes into the house? Which im hoping i will eventually find with it going underground its difficult to determine, will have to trace back from a gas appliance.
Or the more expensive option of an earth spike at the side of meter outside.
Is that allowed been searching through regs n this site but still not found a definate answer?
All input welcome

 

[robsparky1975]

No main bonding to gas,no work,you are allowed to bond gas at point of entry to building before any branchwork,it says in the regs within 600mm of the consumer side,IF REASONABLY PRACTIBLE,and in the gas safe manual they say the same but add that if meter is external bonding is accepted but NOT preferable,i would bond it as it enters property,and label consumer unit with location and also eic as to where it is.

 

[leokiss]

Cheers for all input guys done job now nice little learning curve this job,will be much happier going out doing these type of jobs in future for myself so putting money from this towards joining whichever group is cheapest. Going to try niceic and napit tommorow.
Testing turned problematic though four rings and all 4 had no loop neutrals but ok on line and earth!
I wasn't sure if my responsiblity to sort or note but sorted any way except one.
Had every socket on circuit off and reconnected neutrals and still same so must be in walls.
Ive noted it down on test sheet. What will this effect ,i mean does it just get left if he chooses to leave it or will he be unable to attain correct insurance for the bedsit without sorting it.
I thought about following through ring and where ever break was disconnecting shortest side and leaving a radial but he may loose sum sockets.
Anyway i felt he'd had much more out of me than he paid for (17hours and 120miles of deisiel) so i just noted it down.
What would you guys have done?