Please Help

[Spazz]

I am renting a flat through an agent

The Agent asked me to supply and install a new kitchen.

The Agent has charged the landlord £2,800.00 for the kitchen and carpet (that I supplied) and shes paid full price for it

I have charged the agent £1,250.00 Very reasonable I thought - including the carpet.

The Agent is now refusing to pay me me anything over £450.00


I owe the agent £450 for the rent for January
I will also owe another £450 for February as from next week

The landlord has already had £195 from me for January.

What do I do?

Do I keep my business (sole-trader) separate and pay rent as Im meant to or do I refuse to pay anymore rent until the debt has been cleared.
The Agent had a payment terms of payment on receipt.


I have also been asked by the landlord to install 4 new fire doors (1 for each of the 4 flats) as well as 2 new 17th Edition CUs per flat (1 main electrics and 1 for Economy 7 CU)



Many Thanks in advance

 

[Engineer54]

Des just to say yes verbal agreements are legal but my understanding is as long as the conversation is witnessed by a third party other than that its my word against yours I alway get the customer to confirm via email so no problems their but yes I have mentioned that I got caught out with a call out were he has just ignored me ok it only for £45 but it still leaves a bad taste also a lot of my customers would be insulted if I made them sign a 4 page T&C so for me one job a year I put it down to bad luck or maybe next when I am passing he may find a big scratch on his motor

Nothing worse than an OLD vandal!! LOL!!

 

[ipf]

Nothing worse than an OLD vandal!! LOL!!

A YOUNG one!! LOLunk:

 

[Spazz]

All sorted today - the agent came around and Shirting (-the r) himself because I refured everything in that letter to something legal and certain acts.

He thought I was going to take him to the cleaners! - lol


He then asked me if he got his sparky to do some work could I sign it off for him as the usual one he has to do it is no longer in the trade - I wonder why!

I shown him the regs in regards to this and he crapped himself again! He apologised and asked if I would be willing to do the work for him and sign it off - sure I said but I need the debt paid off in full or 3 months rent free - gone with 3 months free and all parts paid for up front or he supplies all parts and 50% of the labor up front.

It appears he didnt know the law and made a mistake with asking me to sign it off for him - lol


We will see what happens over the next few months now

 

[Plonker 3]

All sorted today - the agent came around and Shirting (-the r) himself because I refured everything in that letter to something legal and certain acts.

He thought I was going to take him to the cleaners! - lol


He then asked me if he got his sparky to do some work could I sign it off for him as the usual one he has to do it is no longer in the trade - I wonder why!

I shown him the regs in regards to this and he crapped himself again! He apologised and asked if I would be willing to do the work for him and sign it off - sure I said but I need the debt paid off in full or 3 months rent free - gone with 3 months free and all parts paid for up front or he supplies all parts and 50% of the labor up front.

It appears he didnt know the law and made a mistake with asking me to sign it off for him - lol


We will see what happens over the next few months now

What law and regulations did he break?

 

[Spazz]

What law and regulations did he break?

I dont want to go into it to be honest - most are fire regs and tenancy regs.

All been sorted now

 

[Spazz]

What law and regulations did he break?

Check Part P of building regs in regards to signing off others work, that you have had no part in at all.

 

[Plonker 3]

Check Part P of building regs in regards to signing off others work, that you have had no part in at all.

The Part P regulation you mention contradicts itself, no one can sign off someone else's work. Yet from what I gather from LABC is they can sign it off for you. Section 1.28 so surely it is possible to do it?

Still don't see what law has been broken though.

 

[Engineer54]

The Part P regulation you mention contradicts itself, no one can sign off someone else's work. Yet from what I gather from LABC is they can sign it off for you. Section 1.28 so surely it is possible to do it?

Still don't see what law has been broken though.

As Part Pee is statutory, then you would be falling foul of it's content's. The LABC's have local jurisdiction on PP, so they can do whatever they wish to do, ...for a fee of course!!!
They have enjoyed that place for many years accross the whole of the building game!! lol!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

yep...part **** wont allow you to sihn off other peoples wirk.....unless you were ther at initial install.....and then inspection and testing stage.....i mean...whats the point?.....

 

[Plonker 3]

As Part Pee is statutory, then you would be falling foul of it's content's. The LABC's have local jurisdiction on PP, so they can do whatever they wish to do, ...for a fee of course!!!
They have enjoyed that place for many years accross the whole of the building game!! lol!!

Agreed, but surely that means they can also allow any contractor to pass them paper work should they so choose if not registered with any of the relevant bodies, as I have seen people on here before say has been requested?

 

[Spazz]

I was talking to the council about this yesterday.

They contract a company in to do an inspect test on the installation and then the LABC sign it off as safe.

The contracted company does not issue the certs, not does it deam the installation is safe.

 

[Plonker 3]

So LABC just take someone elses word that it is OK? Goes to show what a complete farce the whole Part P structure is.

Obviously different areas will use different guidelines but surely there must be more than just 1 that carries out that approach.

 

[Spazz]

They are ment to come and check the work as its done, I did phone them up as a sparky who is about to go through the assessment just to see how much they charge (incase I fail - knowing napit would just tell me to forward them the stuff Im missing). They did ask would I issue a certificate of instillation.