`pond flex` or `arctic` cable for flex connection to outside halogen lights ?

[chris murphy]

"Hello All",


Please don`t think that this is `too trivial` a question for the Forum:


I have noticed that My Garden / Outside Halogen Lights [500 W] were originally wired with what looks to Me like `ordinary` 1mm Flex.

It looks like the Insulation has been badly degraded by the Weather / UV Light.


I want to rewire these - just about the last 800mm to the Lights - luckily there are Single Gang Surface Boxes with Flex Outlet Plates on the Gable End Wall in the Loft and I would rewire the Lights back to the connections housed in those - the Switches are downstairs - these 3 Halogen Lights / the Lights Circuit has its own circuit breaker on the Consumer Unit.


Here is My question regarding which Flex type cable I can use:


I obviously want to use a `Weather / UV Resistant` Flex / Cable.

IF `Arctic` Cable [3183Y]is both UV / Weather and Cold Temperature resistant this would be ideal for Me as I can purchase Cut lengths of 1.5mm 3 Core for about £1.10 per Metre - I would only need 3 Metres - approx 800mm for each Light including some `slack`.


Before seeing the Arctic Cable I saw `Weather Resistant Rubber Pond Flex` [3183P] - 0.75mm 3 Core - this is described as being `suitable for external lighting - exposed to the Sun`s rays` - BUT this is only available on a 25 Metre Drum at a cost of £15.34.

As the `Pond Flex` would only be any good to Me if I have to rewire the last 800mm to these Outside Halogen Lights AGAIN I don`t really want to buy a 25 Metre Drum of it - unless the `Arctic` cable is NOT suitable - ?

As I mentioned - Please don`t view this as too trivial - the Information that I will receive on here will be helpful and possibly save Me about£12.00 [?].



Thanks for your help.


Regards,


Chris - Heating Engineer

 

[chris murphy]

Hi Chris, just joking after guitarist. lol. ATB.

"Hello again ipf",

Thanks for replying - I wondered what You meant.

Regards,


Chris

 

[Guitarist]

Hi Chris, what I said was tongue-in-cheek. I wasn't upset, really.
If you only need a few feet, then pop into any electrical shop/DIY store and get yourself some 1.0mm black flex if the lighting is on a 6A MCB or 5A fuse. Arctic generally comes in blue (230v) and yellow (110v) which is not an indication of voltage rating but just a colour coding for identifying equipment on site.
As already said, T&E will degrade over time (quite a long time normally) and the oval shape isn't great for glanding if it's exposed.

 

[ipf]

Hi Chris, what I said was tongue-in-cheek. I wasn't upset, really.
If you only need a few feet, then pop into any electrical shop/DIY store and get yourself some 1.0mm black flex if the lighting is on a 6A MCB or 5A fuse. Arctic generally comes in blue (230v) and yellow (110v) which is not an indication of voltage rating but just a colour coding for identifying equipment on site.
As already said, T&E will degrade over time (quite a long time normally) and the oval shape isn't great for glanding if it's exposed.

Should have been 'with' not 'after', sorry G.

 

[decolad69]

Won't bother in future...

did you say something ?:smilewinkgrin:

 

[chris murphy]

Hi Chris, what I said was tongue-in-cheek. I wasn't upset, really.
If you only need a few feet, then pop into any electrical shop/DIY store and get yourself some 1.0mm black flex if the lighting is on a 6A MCB or 5A fuse. Arctic generally comes in blue (230v) and yellow (110v) which is not an indication of voltage rating but just a colour coding for identifying equipment on site.
As already said, T&E will degrade over time (quite a long time normally) and the oval shape isn't great for glanding if it's exposed.

"Hello again Guitarist",

Thanks for replying again.

What I wrote was exactly what happened - I wrote the brief reply to johnuk and then immediately started writing My reply to You - then I could not Submit it - Lost it - and had to Retype the message - as I only Type with ONE Finger this all took plenty of time.

I can completely understand why it would look as if I was NOT Grateful for Your message to Me when a reply to You did not materialise soon after My response to johnuk - and it was exactly because of this that I wanted to add an explanation to My message.

This Losing messages has happened a few times to Me on here previously - I will have to revert to carrying out `Copy & Paste` of My messages BEFORE I Submit the Posts - so that I do NOT Lose them.

Thanks for confirming that I could use `Ordinary` Black Flex - but as I would have to go to the same Electrical Goods Supplier to get Cut Length of that I might as well get the Blue 1.5mm [1mm not available] 3 Core Arctic cable.


I had originally thought that IF I had stated that I was going to use `Ordinary / Standard Flex` I would be `Verbally Chastised` on here - with some statements such as: `You MUST use UV Resistant Cable` !


Thanks again for your help.

Regards,


Chris

 

[ipf]

"Hello again Guitarist",

Thanks for replying again.

What I wrote was exactly what happened - I wrote the brief reply to johnuk and then immediately started writing My reply to You - then I could not Submit it - Lost it - and had to Retype the message - as I only Type with ONE Finger this all took plenty of time.

I can completely understand why it would look as if I was NOT Grateful for Your message to Me when a reply to You did not materialise soon after My response to johnuk - and it was exactly because of this that I wanted to add an explanation to My message.

This Losing messages has happened a few times to Me on here previously - I will have to revert to carrying out `Copy & Paste` of My messages BEFORE I Submit the Posts - so that I do NOT Lose them.

Thanks for confirming that I could use `Ordinary` Black Flex - but as I would have to go to the same Electrical Goods Supplier to get Cut Length of that I might as well get the Blue 1.5mm [1mm not available] 3 Core Arctic cable.


I had originally thought that IF I had stated that I was going to use `Ordinary / Standard Flex` I would be `Verbally Chastised` on here - with some statements such as: `You MUST use UV Resistant Cable` !


Thanks again for your help.

Regards,


Chris

I've lost quite a few, also. Pain in the backside. Automatically logged out, half the message lost.

 

[chris murphy]

I've lost quite a few, also. Pain in the backside. Automatically logged out, half the message lost.

I MUST do the Copy & Paste process each time from now on - Most of My messages take Me a long time to Type using one finger - it is a REAL `Wind Up` when I lose what I have typed.

Regards,

Chris

 

[ipf]

I MUST do the Copy & Paste process each time from now on - Most of My messages take Me a long time to Type using one finger - it is a REAL `Wind Up` when I lose what I have typed.

Regards,

Chris

It should be auto saving but for some reason it auto logs out after a certain time.

I sometimes leave the post and return to 'forum' after a while. Then go back to the message and press the 'restore auto saved content' so that not too much is lost.

 

[Stroppy]

No problem using non-UV resistant cable here in Guernsey. We last saw the sun in early 2002 for half an hour - its been raining ever since. I've seen some pictures of it and it looks quite nice.

 

[chris murphy]

No problem using non-UV resistant cable here in Guernsey. We last saw the sun in early 2002 for half an hour - its been raining ever since. I've seen some pictures of it and it looks quite nice.

"Hello Stroppy",

The Channel Islands are advertised on TV as `The Sunniest place in the British Isles` ! - regarding Tourism.

Regards,

Chris

 

[telectrix]

flew over guernsey last year. the sun was dazzling. that was above the black clouds, though. you need to build higher. we were at 15,000 ft.

 

[Stroppy]

Noooo, we are lucky to only have one tower block in Guernsey, and that is only 10 storeys high, although I am thinking about a massive sun tube out of my roof to get some sun in!

 

[Guitarist]

And you think the rest of the UK gets to see the sun???

 

[Stroppy]

No not really. Pretty grim, isn't it?

 

[wade88]

Never come across such a polite and diligent poster as this "Chris Murphy".... if that is your real name.

Astounding attention to detail. What a well mannered chap. Absolutely no sarcasm involved.