`pond flex` or `arctic` cable for flex connection to outside halogen lights ?

[chris murphy]

"Hello All",


Please don`t think that this is `too trivial` a question for the Forum:


I have noticed that My Garden / Outside Halogen Lights [500 W] were originally wired with what looks to Me like `ordinary` 1mm Flex.

It looks like the Insulation has been badly degraded by the Weather / UV Light.


I want to rewire these - just about the last 800mm to the Lights - luckily there are Single Gang Surface Boxes with Flex Outlet Plates on the Gable End Wall in the Loft and I would rewire the Lights back to the connections housed in those - the Switches are downstairs - these 3 Halogen Lights / the Lights Circuit has its own circuit breaker on the Consumer Unit.


Here is My question regarding which Flex type cable I can use:


I obviously want to use a `Weather / UV Resistant` Flex / Cable.

IF `Arctic` Cable [3183Y]is both UV / Weather and Cold Temperature resistant this would be ideal for Me as I can purchase Cut lengths of 1.5mm 3 Core for about £1.10 per Metre - I would only need 3 Metres - approx 800mm for each Light including some `slack`.


Before seeing the Arctic Cable I saw `Weather Resistant Rubber Pond Flex` [3183P] - 0.75mm 3 Core - this is described as being `suitable for external lighting - exposed to the Sun`s rays` - BUT this is only available on a 25 Metre Drum at a cost of £15.34.

As the `Pond Flex` would only be any good to Me if I have to rewire the last 800mm to these Outside Halogen Lights AGAIN I don`t really want to buy a 25 Metre Drum of it - unless the `Arctic` cable is NOT suitable - ?

As I mentioned - Please don`t view this as too trivial - the Information that I will receive on here will be helpful and possibly save Me about£12.00 [?].



Thanks for your help.


Regards,


Chris - Heating Engineer

 

[UNG]

"Hello All",
I obviously want to use a `Weather / UV Resistant` Flex / Cable.

IF `Arctic` Cable [3183Y]is both UV / Weather and Cold Temperature resistant this would be ideal for Me as I can purchase Cut lengths of 1.5mm 3 Core for about £1.10 per Metre - I would only need 3 Metres - approx 800mm for each Light including some `slack`.


Before seeing the Arctic Cable I saw `Weather Resistant Rubber Pond Flex` [3183P] - 0.75mm 3 Core - this is described as being `suitable for external lighting - exposed to the Sun`s rays` - BUT this is only available on a 25 Metre Drum at a cost of £15.34.

"Hello sparkdog",

Apart from what I wrote the only other `identifying` detail is: 3183Y [1.5mm 3 Core / 15 Amp]

Is that a BS Number ?

I have noticed that the Pond Flex is noted to be 3183P


Thanks for your help - Arctic cable would definitely be much cheaper at approx. £3.30 inc. - instead of £15.34 inc. for a 25 Metre Drum.

Regards,


Chris

3183Y is standard PVC flex, 3183AG is arctic grade flex somebody somewhere is getting things mixed up beware what of what you are buying

 

[MarkieSparkie]

[FONT=&amp][FONT=&amp] BS 7919 [/FONT][FONT=&amp] (3183AG) [/FONT]Arctic flex is only recommended by the manufacturers and BS 5740-3 for temporary outdoor applications e.g. caravan hook-ups, temporary traffic lights and construction site transformers, festoon lights and power tools etc[/FONT].

 

[chris murphy]

3183Y is standard PVC flex, 3183AG is arctic grade flex somebody somewhere is getting things mixed up beware what of what you are buying

"Hello UNG",

Thanks very much for your message and for the query about the Spoecification of the Arctic Cable.

As I am not either Advertising or Identifying the Electrical Wholesaler concerned I hope that I am not breaking any Forum Rules by posting the Screenshot from their Catalogue below - this shows the 3183Y `Specification` and the comment about `Outdoor Use`.

Regards,

Chris






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[chris murphy]

BS 7919 (3183AG) Arctic flex is only recommended by the manufacturers and BS 5740-3 for temporary outdoor applications e.g. caravan hook-ups, temporary traffic lights and construction site transformers, festoon lights and power tools etc.

"Hello MarkieSparkie",

Thanks for the Information about the Arctic Cable - UNG has also stated that the Electrical Wholesalers that I was going to use have got the Specification wrong when they state: 3183Y

What would You suggest I use - hopefully without having to buy a 25 Metre Drum of `Pond Flex` - ?

If the `3183Y` Arctic Cable is both incorrectly indicated regarding the Specification - AND even a correctly Specified Arctic Cable is only for `Temporary Connection` Use - I might as well use `Ordinary` Black Flex - as suggested by other Members - ?

Regards,


Chris

 

[chris murphy]

Never come across such a polite and diligent poster as this "Chris Murphy".... if that is your real name.

Astounding attention to detail. What a well mannered chap. Absolutely no sarcasm involved.

"Hello wade88",


Thank You for your message and for the Compliment.

I do try to be Polite in every aspect of Life - unless I get a good reason to change My approach.

Regarding My `Name` - would I be correct in thinking that MOST of the Members on the Forum do NOT use their First Name and Surname as their `Forum Name` - ?


Although I have nothing to hide I believe that it is `Normal` to use a `Nom de Plume` on a Forum - ?

Regards,


Chris

 

[kingeri]

Great thread Chris. But I said it before, and I'll say it again, "That's really annoying!"