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I found this the other day and thought it worth posting as certain members are so dogmatic in their views and that makes me chuckle because life is never that black and white.

This is a new install (6 months ago) by a 'time served electrician' and it's in a public building. The installation has had no earth for 6 months. The cable end is not even dressed. I guess it was pushed through and then the meter cupboard door closed. It's not even to the standard of a bad Electrical Trainee.

(apologies the pic was the right way around until I uploaded it).

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What's with the two tails left cut but unterminated as well. Looks like a job not yet finished this. Daz
 
aside from that, though, he can probably spell "electrician" .LOL.

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How sure are you that it was the 'time served' electrician that carried out the work? It could have been one of his lackies. There are plenty of companies (owned and run by time served guys) round my way that send their lackies in to carry out substandard work!
 
How sure are you that it was the 'time served' electrician that carried out the work? It could have been one of his lackies. There are plenty of companies (owned and run by time served guys) round my way that send their lackies in to carry out substandard work!

Doesn't matter, they have a duty of care to ensure that the staff they use are capable of doing the work to the standards expected.
Otherwise they are cowboys...
Problem in this industry is that few want to point fingers and admit that there are a LOT of time served corner cutters out there doing the trade a disservice and giving other electricians a bad name and leaving installations in dangerous conditions.
The NICEIC etc allowing "qualified supervisors" is a total joke and yet so many councils etc will let NICEIC members sign off work without oversight and deny that all too often "qualified supervisors" are signing stuff off without even being on site doing the supervision!
 
Doesn't matter, they have a duty of care to ensure that the staff they use are capable of doing the work to the standards expected.
Otherwise they are cowboys...
Problem in this industry is that few want to point fingers and admit that there are a LOT of time served corner cutters out there doing the trade a disservice and giving other electricians a bad name and leaving installations in dangerous conditions.
The NICEIC etc allowing "qualified supervisors" is a total joke and yet so many councils etc will let NICEIC members sign off work without oversight and deny that all too often "qualified supervisors" are signing stuff off without even being on site doing the supervision!

Totally agree with everything you said, however it would not then be his lack of skill that is causing his work to be substandard, it would be his lack of integrity. This problem is not just confined to the electrical industry and is not something as easy to stop as simply stopping 5WWs carrying out electrical work full stop.

People out there lack integrity and need dealing with sure, but there are many people out there who have the best will in the world but are simply not cutting the mustard when it comes to carrying out electrical installation work.

For every 100 time served sparks there will be 5 carrying out substandard work, for every 100 5WWs there will be 5 carrying out good work.

Pick the right battle mate :)
 

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