push fit connector downlights

[Leesparkykent]

Does anyone know what brands make downlights wit push fit connections? looking for speed when it comes to fitting them 2 x 1.0mm cables. Fire rated down lights not integrated fittings. Cheers

 

[David M]

Does anyone know what brands make downlights wit push fit connections? looking for speed when it comes to fitting them 2 x 1.0mm cables. Fire rated down lights not integrated fittings. Cheers

I fitted some this week that were really good and very fast to install, I would highly recommend them. Not sure what make they were ( think JCC ) as my apprentice un boxed and fitted the led lamps beforehand. But I'll check with my supplier tomorrow.

 

[David M]

I fitted some this week that were really good and very fast to install, I would highly recommend them. Not sure what make they were ( think JCC ) as my apprentice un boxed and fitted the led lamps beforehand. But I'll check with my supplier tomorrow.

I've spoken to my supplier this morning and it turns out the GU10's Ive fitted this week are "Saxby" Shows how much attention I paid to the product make lol.
Downlight - http://www.saxbylighting.com/products/interior/downlight
I found them to be a really good product, at a reasonable cost and very simply to install

 

[Marshall Elec]

What do people prefer, the "cans and lamps" type or the sealed units?

 

[David M]

What do people prefer, the "cans and lamps" type or the sealed units?

I prefer the "cans and lamp" those sealed units don't look as good, don't give off as much light and the one's Ive had experience with fill up with dust inside.

 

[Marshall Elec]

I prefer the sealed ones. I think the customer likes the fact that there is no lamps to change. I know if it goes wrong i have to change it but i havent had any problems yet (except for one in my own house) I also havent experienced any less light output. I suppose its peoples personal preference. It would be a bit boring if everyone liked the same things.

 

[Andy78]

What do people prefer, the "cans and lamps" type or the sealed units?

Sealed unit for me every time now. Cans and led GU10 only if the job needs to be super budget spec.

 

[Marshall Elec]

Sealed unit for me every time now. Cans and led GU10 only if the job needs to be super budget spec.

I agree

 

[David M]

I prefer the sealed ones. I think the customer likes the fact that there is no lamps to change. I know if it goes wrong i have to change it but i havent had any problems yet (except for one in my own house) I also havent experienced any less light output. I suppose its peoples personal preference. It would be a bit boring if everyone liked the same things.

Sorry I quickly read your post and got confused with what fittings you meant, so just ignore my first reply else it sounds like I'm talking out my --- lol

 

[D Skelton]

Collingwood Haler H2 Pro 550 and 700 models now come with push fit connectors.

 

[Gregers83]

Ansell Orbio are a fantastic product.
Sealed led unit.Around £20.
The connector is like a click flow, so can be connected at 1st fix And easily accepts 2x 1.5mm

 

[Leesparkykent]

The problem for me is you can pick a can and LED lamp up for just over £7 where as an integrated fitting typically range from £15 up to £30 and at the lower range in price typically you have to purchase a bezel on top. Say a 4 bed new build has 50 down lights at the lower end of price for integrated fittings that's £750 which you may have to purchase a bezel at £2 each bringing them in at £850 where 50 cans and LED lamps could be picked up for £350. A difference of £500 is a lot of money IMO. I think I will carry on with cans and lamps until the price of reputable branded integrated fittings come down to around £10 all in.

 

[Gregers83]

The problem for me is you can pick a can and LED lamp up for just over £7 where as an integrated fitting typically range from £15 up to £30 and at the lower range in price typically you have to purchase a bezel on top. Say a 4 bed new build has 50 down lights at the lower end of price for integrated fittings that's £750 which you may have to purchase a bezel at £2 each bringing them in at £850 where 50 cans and LED lamps could be picked up for £350. A difference of £500 is a lot of money IMO. I think I will carry on with cans and lamps until the price of reputable branded integrated fittings come down to around £10 all in.

Totally agree.
That £500 might be the difference between getting the job or not.
Me personally I always quote for things that will save me time.
A can and Led might be say £12 all in. But then to 2nd fix you might need flex and in line junction box at extra cost which then pushes the price towards the £20 mark. Add in the extra labour time as well.
I think it totally depends on the job and specifications.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Totally agree.
That £500 might be the difference between getting the job or not.
Me personally I always quote for things that will save me time.
A can and Led might be say £12 all in. But then to 2nd fix you might need flex and in line junction box at extra cost which then pushes the price towards the £20 mark. Add in the extra labour time as well.
I think it totally depends on the job and specifications.

The last few jobs Ive been using aurora enlite cans but the terminal space etc is rubbish. As suggested earlier I'm going to try Ansell Icage downlights, the terminal cover looks a decent size.Im pricing 14 4bed detached houses atm and that would equate to 7K extra!

 

[Gregers83]

Ansell icage are great. Good quality. Reasonable priced and easy to use. They even accept 2x 1.5mm which is rare.

 

[Leesparkykent]

If using Collingwood fittings at £27 a pop that's £18900 on downlights compared to around £6500 with cans and lamps. Are they that much better to warrant a £12400 price difference? I doubt it.