Pylon advice please - wooden pylon voltage advice

[HandySparks]

...so I've been worried sick about it.

Do you use a mobile phone? The field strength, at your skin, of a mobile phone held to your ear may well be more than anything else you're likely to be exposed to. I take part in a long term study into the effects of mobile use on health. I've agreed that they can get my phone use data from the network operator and I get contacted every few years to answer a few simple questions about the way that I use the phone and my current health.

 

[Rpa07]

Certainly no kite flying in your back yard!
Good advice from all the members.
You've probably already got the answer in your head.
All that outside air and running in the fields, growing your own veg and planting some fruit trees - if there is a bus stop outside, job done!
All the best with your decision.

 

[Emma Owen]

Please take great care when researching this. There is a lot of pseudoscience and sensationalist reporting on this subject, especially online, but few relevant scientific studies that are likely to reflect your situation. It is a sad fact that the loudest voices are often charlatans, claiming this or that about electromagnetic fields and misquoting or quoting valid information out of context, in order to scare people into buying their supposed solutions for the claimed harmful effects of EMFs. I once did a review (many years ago!) of material available to the lay reader on this subject and found that demonstrably misinformational articles outnumbered potentially valid ones by about 15 to 1.

If you have concerns, by all means investigate peer-reviewed academic studies, there are both lab and epidemiological studies, but be aware that small differences in parameters such as distance from the line can change a significant finding into an insignificant one, etc.

Please could you tell me which peer reviewed academic studies I can read? It seems to be 11kv according to the national grid advisor I spoke with today who was very helpful. I'm keen to read from reliable sources and appreciate much of what is reported is not evidence based

 

[Marvo]

The problems you're going to have in diving into academic studies are firstly they're nearly all locked behind paywalls and not readily available for general consumption. Secondly they're written in such a way that they're not going to may much sense to anyone that's not at graduate level in that particular field.

I've attached a quasi-experimental field study to give you some idea whgat you're up against. If you really want to persue raw study material then I'd suggest you start trawling sites like LibGen.io and Sci-Hub or even booksee.org, booksc.org and bookzz.org but you'll probably need a VPN (VPN is safer than a mirror or proxy) because I think ISP's in the UK have these sites blacklisted and blocked due to copyright violations.

 

[Santa]

Would the OP hear any hum from those lines?

 

[Strima]

I worked in very close proximity to mobile phone antennas on a regular basis and receive training in EMF and non-ionising radiation and its effects.

A lot of the information on the web is made out of historic scepticism and lack of knowledge on the effects to the human body.

A recent study carried out by an independent research agency in Europe has shown there are no long term effects from EMF and non-ionising radiation.

You may get immediate effects such as heating of the skin and flu like symptoms but you would have to be very close to the source, so close the electricity would have cooked you anyway.

We use radiation monitors that barely flicker when passed in front of high power microwave links yet and old vacuum cleaner makes the thing go mental.

You are actually at greater risk from your microwave oven and Wifi router.

I appreciate you want to give your kids the best start in life, as we all do, but don't let paranoia rule over you.

 

[Emma Owen]

I worked in very close proximity to mobile phone antennas on a regular basis and receive training in EMF and non-ionising radiation and its effects.

A lot of the information on the web is made out of historic scepticism and lack of knowledge on the effects to the human body.

A recent study carried out by an independent research agency in Europe has shown there are no long term effects from EMF and non-ionising radiation.

You may get immediate effects such as heating of the skin and flu like symptoms but you would have to be very close to the source, so close the electricity would have cooked you anyway.

We use radiation monitors that barely flicker when passed in front of high power microwave links yet and old vacuum cleaner makes the thing go mental.

You are actually at greater risk from your microwave oven and Wifi router.

I appreciate you want to give your kids the best start in life, as we all do, but don't let paranoia rule over you.

Thank you

 

[Emma Owen]

Thank you for everyone's responses. We had some tests done which was all done free of charge through the national grid and the readings are fine. For anyone that's interested the line is 33kv not 11 as I previously thought. The readings are as low as 0.01 micro teslas at the end of the drive and they say as low as 0 closer whicy I find difficult to understand as I thought that there was always a baseline level over zero anywhere. I'm satisfied with this however and we are continuing with the purchase and putting the issue to bed. From what I've read we are exposed to higher levels watching tv or standing near the fridge

 

[snowhead]

From what I've read we are exposed to higher levels watching tv or standing near the fridge

Or sat at a Tablet or Laptop posting questions over the Internet on a forum..

 

[Emma Owen]

Or sat at a Tablet or Laptop posting questions over the Internet on a forum..

Very true!

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Thanks for getting back with the conclusions though and good luck with the purchase!

 

[GlenTavener]

If you Google the Bridgwater map find Parkway and go to street view you will find a road with a wide verge between houses and a transmission line right down through the middle. The one you have is 33Kv but this one is many times higher, however for years there have been reports of residents at certain points along there feeling unwell and other things. It is possible to hold a fluorescent tube under such a line and for it to glow from the radiated emf in certain atmospheric conditions. Yes the official view is it is safe. However, think of an MRI scan, this machine creates a magnetic field to cause your cell structure to aline in a certain way so that an image can be taken. There is a huge magnetic field around HV distribution and logically it must somehow affect the bodies cells. The question not answered anywhere is whether this is serious or of no passing consequence. For that reason I would not buy a house near them. I apologise if that seems too negative.

 

[Emma Owen]

If you Google the Bridgwater map find Parkway and go to street view you will find a road with a wide verge between houses and a transmission line right down through the middle. The one you have is 33Kv but this one is many times higher, however for years there have been reports of residents at certain points along there feeling unwell and other things. It is possible to hold a fluorescent tube under such a line and for it to glow from the radiated emf in certain atmospheric conditions. Yes the official view is it is safe. However, think of an MRI scan, this machine creates a magnetic field to cause your cell structure to aline in a certain way so that an image can be taken. There is a huge magnetic field around HV distribution and logically it must somehow affect the bodies cells. The question not answered anywhere is whether this is serious or of no passing consequence. For that reason I would not buy a house near them. I apologise if that seems too negative.

Thanks for your comment however we have had the EMF readings carried out and at the edge of the drive they are 0-0.01 micro teslas so this is minute and less than you would expect in a house that was miles from any power lines. I appreciate that there are mixed opinions on this and research is ongoing however because we have had readings done we know the actual risk associated with how close the house is with this line which is basically none, or at least certainly no greater than if a line was no where near

 

[StephenRowley]

I'm with Pete don't buy it, There no links but you can guarantee it will sit in the back of your mind and if something does happen you'll just blame yourself.

 

[Emma Owen]

I see where you're coming from and you could be right. Change of events as it transpired that an 11kv cable had been buried in the garden running the entire length of the house about 1 metre from the house. Scottish Power came and took readings in every room in th house and in the garden and to cut a long story short, they were pretty high. Well within government guidelines of course but we took the view that we aren't happy with the levels set as safe by the guidelines when looking at loads of peer reviewed studies and international standards so we have actually withdrawn from the sale. Disappointed but it would always have been at the back of my mind. There were certain areas of the garden I wouldn't have been happy with the kids playing in, even though I accept there are so many mixed findings on the subject. You're supposed to be able to relax in your own home and at the end of the day we decided we might not ever fully forget about this cable. Thanks again for all the input

 

[static zap]

If we could see magnetic fields we would probably stay of the internet ,for fear of our
laptops ,TV screens , power supplies.
Unlike Xrays , nothing bad has been found of MRI scans , though maybe not used on the young s much !

 

[static zap]

........ Thanks again for all the input

Thankyou for sharing your worries as a parent .
( Playing near power lines - not a good childhood skill )

 

[Rpa07]

Thankyou for sharing your worries as a parent .
( Playing near power lines - not a good childhood skill )

It was the TV public announcements in the 70s that put the fear of the good Lord into us about not climbing the fence to get your frisby back - stange they don't have those adverts now even though I feel people are a little less intelligent and sometimes need reminding!

 

[Sparkgap]

I've got an 11kV line at the bottom of my garden and a substation halfway down fed by underground cable. I sit listening to my ham radio and don't have any problems with interference from either but my smartphone causes a hell of a noise on it!
Had an event where we set up a Coleman Event Shelter under a 33kV pole route. Got a slight tingle from the induced emf in the tent poles!

 

[RWJ]

I've got an 11kV line at the bottom of my garden and a substation halfway down fed by underground cable. I sit listening to my ham radio and don't have any problems with interference from either but my smartphone causes a hell of a noise on it!

Not to mention the problems PLT's cause, and those are the legal ones not to mention the "imported" high power ones!

Anyway... apologies and back to the original subject!! 73s