RCD wiring into fuse box

[jrli2008]

Just need some clarification...

installing a 8kw electric shower, none previously fitted.

only has a older style fuse/trip box (1989 build)


In taking power from this fusebox, where should it come from and I was just going to install a separate RCD, but would I need a MCb too?

ta guys

 

[Hawk81]

Oh for god sake. I thought this forum was to clarify doubts people have. Ya give the advice and either ya get shot down or the op gets told he don't know what he is doing. Surely this is why a forum exists and not for just showing you know more than someone else.
To clarify... Put the 40a type 1 mcb in the board only and run to the RCD. DO NOT put a 40a in the board and then another one in with the rcd unit. This will cause a discrimination issue.

this attitude is exactly what is wrong with this forum. The op clearly needs more than clarification, the don't know the basics yet you are willingly handing out all the answers. In my opinion that is foolish. I thought it was an "electricians" forum. People that need basic questions answered are NOT electricians

 

[james29022004]

ask your local supplier if they have a conversion kit for the old to new type mk sentry ucan then us a new type mk rcbo

 

[rattlehead85]

No electrician knows everything. I ask questions as well as give advice. Some of the help and advice i have got on here has been very helpful. Good job i didn't get the response ' I'm an Electrician..,you aint..,so don't ask' and i have been in this game nearly 30 years.

 

[rattlehead85]

I thought that was the whole point of being a spark. To give professional advice.

 

[Hawk81]

No electrician knows everything. I ask questions as well as give advice. Some of the help and advice i have got on here has been very helpful. Good job i didn't get the response ' I'm an Electrician..,you aint..,so don't ask' and i have been in this game nearly 30 years.

No one expects everyone to know everything but the basics should be a must. The op of this thread has posted nothing to point that they are an electrician. The advice is handed out without any question and could be doing an electrician out of work

 

[Hawk81]

I thought that was the whole point of being a spark. To give professional advice.

To who?? DIYer's? Do you tell your customers how to do the job themselves and lose out on doing it yourself?

 

[rattlehead85]

Perhaps you should ban forums then if you are that worried about the possibility of not getting a minor job like the op describes then. God such a fuss over trying to guide somebody who asks a question.

 

[SYKRAPS]

I will happily give advice aswell as recieve it but we must have duty of care aswell, the last thing anyone wants is for someone to get hurt by carrying out work on an electrical installation if they are not capable of doing so.

 

[Hawk81]

Perhaps you should ban forums then if you are that worried about the possibility of not getting a minor job like the op describes then. God such a fuss over trying to guide somebody who asks a question.

You are missing the point. Giving advice to someone clearly not at a level to do the work could be dangerous to the op or someone else

 

[rattlehead85]

The safety issue i am 100% behind no question, but answering a query to the best of my knowledge and getting a response like that i aint. End of the day if he aint a spark and still attempts the work regardless of advice or not you wont stop him. At least he has been guided on the correct way to do it. Better that over telling him nothing and he frazzles himself or causes a fire! If he chooses not to take the advice then more fool him!

 

[Hawk81]

Maybe if enough of us tell him to get a professional in then they would take that advice. Surely before handing out advice it would be best to ask the op a few things to see if they will understand the advice and also see if they are worthy of it. As in actually an electrician

 

[rattlehead85]

Hawk81 I perfectly understand where you are coming from and i agree but at the end of the day he asked a genuine question which both myself and others have answered. Actually it wasn't as bad as a lot I have seen on here by so called time served sparks.

 

[Engineer54]

Hawk81 I perfectly understand where you are coming from and i agree but at the end of the day he asked a genuine question which both myself and others have answered. Actually it wasn't as bad as a lot I have seen on here by so called time served sparks.

Not by ''Time Served Sparks'' but by 17 day/Electrical Trainee wanna-be sparks!!! And i agree, some of the queries seen on here are so dammed basic that one has to ask, how safe are these individuals to be going into peoples homes working on electrical systems??

 

[Hawk81]

Not by ''Time Served Sparks'' but by 17 day/Electrical Trainee wanna-be sparks!!! And i agree, some of the queries seen on here are so dammed basic that one has to ask, how safe are these individuals to be going into peoples homes working on electrical systems??

I agree 100%

 

[Dean Williams]

never heard it called a trip box before, certainly not by a real spark!!!!!