Recommendation needed for basic PIRs and exterior floods

[Lucien Nunes]

What's flavour of the month for low-cost PIRs / PIR LEDs / LED floods in the 10-20W range? I need a few for the museum store; can't blow too much cash on them but equally I don't want tat that fills with water after 3 weeks.

Not sure if they will get linked together as they are quite widely spaced out around the various door areas. It's more so we can see what we're doing to lock and unlock but might help security a bit if the cameras don't have to rely on IR.

 

[freddo]

I like the Steinel IS1 PIR, cheap and reliable for a stand alone PIR, useful if you want to override with a remote switch and to link more than one PIR or more than one light, also provides a connection point for the short ----y little flex supplied with most LED floods. Cables can enter from the back or underside. I don't often buy LED floods with PIRs built in as adjusting the PIR for correct range generally means the flood is blasting light straight outwards.

I do like the Timeguard Night Eye Plus range, seems well made, select any add on module you require, connection box has 2 20mm holes for in and out wiring.

More professional (and more expensive), the Ansell Mira range of floodlights are great, we fitted quite a few last year, available as plain or with a built in photocell.

Many small 10-20W LED floods are under £15 now, cheap but expect to replace them after 2 years.

I used to love the little Timeguard EVO LED floods, PIR worked well and easy to fit but despite being factory sealed most fill up with water so no longer recommend them. Also fitted a load of customer supplied Toolstation LED floods for 2 different customers, all failed within 6 months.

 

[SJD]

For floods, I tend to use Osram LEDVANCE, they have an IP65 rating, installed quite a few now with no problems, and reasonably priced. For PIR sensors, I tend to use Steinel, but some models can be a bit pricey.

 

[ruston]

Plus 1 for Steinel products. In my day they were my Pir's of choice.

 

[ipf]

The cheaper you go, the more limited the PIR, I reckon. I like Timeguard and Ansell.
I used to really rate the Brackenheath ispot with microwave sensor, giving about 270 degree coverage, certain of 180 if wall mounted......seem to have gone off market, though.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Definitely NOT LAP floodlights. I see a lot of these failed, some with water in, some just because they're carp.

 

[telectrix]

Definitely NOT LAP floodlights. I see a lot of these failed, some with water in, some just because they're carp.

i've fitted a few LAP with no problems where price was a major factor. 1 being that you don't need a wiska box as the LAP ones don't have tails. cable goes directly in, a bit fiddly, but saves a few quids.

 

[loz2754]

i've fitted a few LAP with no problems where price was a major factor. 1 being that you don't need a wiska box as the LAP ones don't have tails. cable goes directly in, a bit fiddly, but saves a few quids.

I have fitted lots of the LAP lights and had no failures in the last 2 years.

 

[Resu]

Another vote for Steinel PIRs from me. Osram LEDVANCE & Ansell Carina floods both decent, similarly priced options.

 

[mattg4321]

Steinel pirs are good.

The ansell calinor pir floods are great and very reasonably priced. Fitted over 100 in past 3 years and not a single failure yet

 

[Dustydazzler]

Fitted a few toolstation led floods with and without pir sensors, no call backs yet (touch wood)

 

[ruston]

Steinel pirs are good.

The ansell calinor pir floods are great and very reasonably priced. Fitted over 100 in past 3 years and not a single failure yet

I agree with that combination too. Ansell were always good in my opinion.

 

[DefyG]

We normally recommend the Osram LEDVANCE Flood/Flood+PIR where the price is a concern.
Steinel for standalone units especially for the reliability!

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Right then, Steinel PIRs and Ansell or LEDvance floods, with Timeguard a possibility and an interestingly mixed experience of LAP. Thanks to all for the input.

I've decided how we are going to control the (approx 6) fittings collectively. Putting them all on one circuit would involve running about 150m of 3C+E, but there is power local to four of them already, plus I would also prefer not to have them all disabled by a single fault / damage. The solution is to run the PIR SL out and the flood L in through the wall separately, to a box with room for a couple of cradle relays but just wire them to local mains for now. When we're running other stuff, we can opt to run a control cable connecting the relay boxes, security telemetry interface and overrride switch(es). They can then be centrally controlled while remaining on their own local power. One fitting being vandalised won't take the others out and we can also integrate the larger floods at the loading bay without overloading the PIR outputs.

 

[bigspark17]

Diamond floodlights are very reasonable with a low return rate. They also have the overide core which is very handy