Recommendations for metal cable fixings

[Gavin John Hyde]

I am planning a job in Bath for an EV Charger on a Grade 1 listed building.
Have a long cable run at height, planning dept have raised issues with cable cleats! feel they are a bit chunky and would prefer something with a less chunky profile!! given they are nearly 2 and half stories up from ground nobody is going to notice! but the planning guy is a pedantic so and so.
Have also stipulated that cable and fixings must be painted on completion to blend in with Bath stone.
Owing to the length of cable run I will be using H07RNF - lighter and easier to work with up the scaffolding than SWA. Customer doesn't mind cost.
Only low profile option I can think of is metal cable ties and bases. base screwed to wall then tie cable. paint on completion.
If I used metal buckle clips then they are a bit fiddly to work with on larger cables.
Any other suggestions?

 

[telectrix]

Nah just get tiresome of half information, like when the wife says get me a drink so I get the drink and go to give it to her (placed in hand so you know, she can drink it) only to get "put it on the table then"....if that's what you wanted WHY DIDNT YOU BLOODY SAY SO! ?

ANYWAY divergence over ?

wives and girlfriends all think we are mind readers.

 

[Zerax]

Aren't they just P clips?

I tried to buy some P clips in my local wholesaler the other week.... they looked at me as if I had horns coming out of my head and 3 eyes !

 

[Lister1987]

wives and girlfriends all think we are mind readers.

Ain't that the truth, and yet they have the cheek to come to us when something has moved (read: put away) and ask where we put X item.....you're the woman that never forgets, you tell me where it usually lives...

 

[telectrix]

years ago, i had 3 cheques from customers totalling a few hundred. put them on hall table ready to take to bank. went out in a rush, left them there. 7 months later found them in a drawer "tidied up". 'er indoors swears she never touched 'em. had to take them all back to each customer and get them to issue new cheques.

 

[pirate]

Tel, I know we have gone off-topic but...
a few years ago my Mum sent me to the bank to pay in 3 cheques for her. The girl took them, then scrabbled about in some drawers (no, not hers!) for a couple of minutes and said "Sorry, i can't find a calculator!" What??? In a bank??? So i said, gimme a pen and a bit of paper which she did, i added them up, she took the paper and just accepted the total and credited the account. As I turned to go she said "Oh, i bet you think that's awful!" I said "What?"
She replied "Awful that i couldn't find a calculator!"
No, sweetheart, that's not what's awful...you work in a bank and can't add up 3 figures...but i said it to myself and just walked away, slowly shaking my head...

Just for info, that was Fred The Shred Goodwins's Royal Bank of Scotland...oddly enough, he managed to count and keep his £17m pension pot...
just saying...

Anyway, back on topic...I am going to order some of those Linian clips. The wee lassie in the video has a lovely Scottish accent!

 

[Malcolm Broomfield]

If the cable in its entirety is to be painted in then I would just use 'white' Pclips plugged and screwed

why would you use p clips with rawlplugs when the 18th says not to?

 

[davesparks]

why would you use p clips with rawlplugs when the 18th says not to?

Which regulation says you can't?

 

[Dustydazzler]

why would you use p clips with rawlplugs when the 18th says not to?

never seen a reg saying you can’t use metal p clips or rawlplugs.
it was decided ages ago that a plastic rail plug and suitable screw was a perfectly acceptable method of fixing

 

[bigspark17]

Black metal strap. Use this on ho7 & swa installs. Also take care of cleats not meeting fire rating fixtures.

 

[Midwest]

never seen a reg saying you can’t use metal p clips or rawlplugs.
it was decided ages ago that a plastic rail plug and suitable screw was a perfectly acceptable method of fixing

A while back, a member provided a link from the grown ups at the IET about using standard plastic raw plugs. If I recall they changed their mind (again), and gave guidance that consideration should be against using standard plastic raw plugs in escape routes.

https://electrical.------.org/wirin...tumn-2015/fire-performance-of-cable-supports/

I note this guidance predates the 18th.

 

[SparkySy]

I use metal strap band with wall dogs and normal plugs and screws. sometimes I will wrap the band round the cleat so that it doesn't look out of place, other installs I have used it exclusively and still looks good I think!