Replacing a 13A plug fuse with solid brass

[John-SJW]

I read once, never seen one for sale, that there is a solid brass replacement for the standard 13A fuse in a 13A plug. This is to eliminate the fusing in the plug, which is handy when having a heavy appliance plugged in behind itself, like under worktops which are isolated and fused by an FCU.

Anyone know where they are available, if they are?

On a dedicated radial with its own MCB and say a 20A isolator switch a washing machine can have a 15A fuseless round pin socket and plug. That is fine, but many manufacturers say that if you remove the 13A moulded plug the guarantee is void. This would never hold up court if an appliance is connected to regulation being sound and safe, but it is avoiding the hassle factor from these irresponsible makers.

 

[John-SJW]

Even I'm bored now ?

Move off the thread!

 

[westward10]

I have come across 13A solid links, and knew guys who used them. Not seen one for years, hence this thread. They may not be available any longer as the demand is not there. Nothing in any reg say they are illegal. Solid links are available for many applications.

The link simple converts a fused 13A plug into a fuseless, eliminating a gfuse -a s do all solid links. Fuseless plugs are legal being for sale - 15A.

Those are general portable appliances. A heavy fitted appliance is different - some are even hard wired in.

Solid links are available for many applications however I doubt you will find one for a plug which incorporates a fuse. If you wish to make your own then go for it there is nothing stopping you.

 

[John-SJW]

In ye olden dayes, and now, many thought 15A round pin fuseless plugs were illegal (15A round pin fused plugs are available being legal only on radials or spur radials off a final ring). 15A are legal. So they put solid links in 13A plugs in ye olden dayes.

Now we know 15A round pin plugs are legal and great for inaccessible locations, It is awkward manufacturers and their guarantees that are the problem, otherwise just lop off the moulded 13A square pin then fit a 15A round pin.

 

[John-SJW]

A few years back products were being imported, in particular cctv equipment which came with a fitted moulded plug but no fuse, these were flagged up by Trading Standards as non compliant and dangerous.

Square pin Smart phone charging plugs with the integrated USB plugs do not have fuses. Apple & Samsung.

 

[DPG]

Square pin Smart phone charging plugs with the integrated USB plugs do not have fuses. Apple & Samsung.

Different product. They aren't manufacturerd to BS1363.

 

[Darkwood]

If all this thread is about is cutting off a moulded plug due to warranty issues then there is no requirement to keep the moulded plug for warranty issues, no company can void a warranty simply because you cut off their moulded plug, the only way your warranty can be voided is if it can be demonstrated the replacement plug was the cause of a problem covered by the warranty but that would first have to be proven.

 

[UNG]

If the manufacturer is OK with cutting off the moulded plug, then a 15A round pin is the way to go.

So you cut off the moulded plug and replace it with a non standard plug so preventing it being plugged into an alternative power point for testing by the manufacturers engineer thats an interesting one

I'm sure you must go howling at the moon when it's dark

 

[goasis]

Do you know if they are still available or guessing?

I m way past caring. I see no need for them. And this thread feels like groundhog day.

You've heard of Google search right?

 

[nicebutdim]

I have come across 13A solid links

I very much doubt they were rated to 13A.

 

[loz2754]

From the current COPISITEE:

 

[DPG]

From the current COPISITEE:
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Even John can't argue with that eh.

 

[goasis]

Even John can't argue with that eh.

...yeah... but are solid links available?

 

[Mikegh]

It's sort of obvious isn't it that you can't fit brass links ?

Even at 13amp it was never a great system in terms of overload

 

[westward10]

...yeah... but are solid links available?

You can lead a horse to water...............................

 

[ipf]

Even John can't argue with that eh.

No?????