Rewiring house questions

[dannym]

Hi everyone, I've rewired my first house by myself - I havnt done a great deal of domestic work, mainly industrial and commercial. But I've got a few of questions that I havnt been able to find answers for. I think I know how to do them but would just like some conformation to boost my confidence with it lol.


1. On one lighting circuit I've taken the feed to 3 different rooms, and they are feeding 2 pendant lights and one extract fan and in the kitchen - 10 led downlights. My question is will these 10 downlights be ok on one switch? Or will it overload the circuit?

2. The external shed requires a feed. The shed is approximately 25m away from the consumer unit. My idea is to run a 2 core 6mm SWA to an IP rated adaptable box on the side of the house and connect a 6mm t and e into this and run it back to the board. Would this be acceptable? I know that I need an earth stake near the shed.

3. The board is moving the meter to an external location (the consumer unit has also been moved). But is over 3m away from the meter. I was going to use a KMF switch that would be boxed in somehow and use an SWA out of if to an IP rated adaptable box and then feed the consumer unit. Does this sound ok or does anyone have any other suggestions? I've never dealt with the electricity company directly before and the customer has spoke to them so I'm not sure what they'll leave me with.


Many thanks,

Danny

 

[Risteard]

even the AM2 no longer includes metal containment FFS and has long since included MICC.

Did the containment and MIMS not go out of the AM2 at exactly the same time? I'm pretty sure they did.

 

[Risteard]

Worked in a bar..Thought u had to be enjoyed in the industry to do an apprenticeship?
That's what an apprenticeship is...hands on experience

Do u mean u did evenings?

He did clearly state that he was referring to those who hadn't done the Apprenticeship!

 

[Engineer54]

Did the containment and MIMS not go out of the AM2 at exactly the same time? I'm pretty sure they did.

From what i've been led to understand, MICC hasn't been taught at any length or depth for some years now, so pretty daft having MICC as part of the AM2 if the students know sod all about how to terminate and dress the cable. How metal conduit and metal containment systems can be dropped from an electricians curriculum in favour of Cat5 installations, just beggars belief. I suppose that skill and experience will become yet another add-on C&G qualification....

 

[davesparks]

The last plant I worked on used over twenty 32A 433V rings. Go in at 06:00 Sunday morning it was like switching Blackpool illuminations on, switched off the following Saturday evening. The only lights that went out during the week were the outdoor stock grounds.
I don’t know which genius designed the system, the light switches were slap bang in the centre of the plant. Up two flights of stairs, walk past the furnaces, pass around the back of the bunkers, climb another flight of stairs, go through the pump room and you’ve found them. That’s after you’ve fallen over umpteen things on the way.

If only you'd had an electrician around who could have moved them for you

That sounds like the wonderful design work of an archi**** to me!

 

[Knobhead]

I was there 14 years, it was on the "to do" list. It had been since the plant had been built in the 60's.

 

[davesparks]

I thought that would be the case, isn't it always with something like that?

 

[Andy78]

From what i've been led to understand, MICC hasn't been taught at any length or depth for some years now, so pretty daft having MICC as part of the AM2 if the students know sod all about how to terminate and dress the cable. How metal conduit and metal containment systems can be dropped from an electricians curriculum in favour of Cat5 installations, just beggars belief. I suppose that skill and experience will become yet another add-on C&G qualification....

I did my AM2 as recent as 2009 and MI was still involved in the install then, so it must have changed since then.

I did my college between 2005 - 2009 and we were actually taught quite well. Workshop sessions included fabricating bends, and sets in steel conduit, trunking, and tray. We covered MI quite well too, and were capable of not only using a joistripper, but a T bar and pliers too by the end of it. Nowhere near the practical level of the apprenticeships of days past I imagine, but good for a modern centre.

I did have a lot of site experience before I even started the course, so most of it was just going through the motions for me, but to some lads these skills were a revelation.

 

[shanky887614]

From what i've been led to understand, MICC hasn't been taught at any length or depth for some years now, so pretty daft having MICC as part of the AM2 if the students know sod all about how to terminate and dress the cable. How metal conduit and metal containment systems can be dropped from an electricians curriculum in favour of Cat5 installations, just beggars belief. I suppose that skill and experience will become yet another add-on C&G qualification....

cant beat a bit of galv or stainless containment.

basket, tray, trunking, conduit we use the lot

 

[7029 dave]

cant beat a bit of galv or stainless containment.

basket, tray, trunking, conduit we use the lot

Shanky, if I have read your post correctly, are you using these materials at college?, If so that's encouraging.

 

[shanky887614]

Shanky, if I have read your post correctly, are you using these materials at college?, If so that's encouraging.

nope, cut 1 piece of swa and glanded in 2330 lvl2

no trunking at all, couple 90's in bends but is that really that useful?


then mainly sets etc in plastic, nothing else other than T&e on ply.


the stuff I mentioned is what I use nearly daily at work

 

[7029 dave]

nope, cut 1 piece of swa and glanded in 2330 lvl2

no trunking at all, couple 90's in bends but is that really that useful?


then mainly sets etc in plastic, nothing else other than T&e on ply.


the stuff I mentioned is what I use nearly daily at work

Okay, that's good mate, at least your getting good hands on, shame no micc.

 

[shanky887614]

Okay, that's good mate, at least your getting good hands on, shame no micc.

got some in post soon to have a go with.

defstan is awful stuff to work with, I would rather be pulling cables in a duct in the middle of summer surrounded by steam pipes

(i might have been bidding against some of you guys for a joistripper)