Ring main become 2 radials

[Naz]

Electrical ring circuit

The electricalian came and did the second fix. But we werent sure if all the wires had been bought through the plaster board.

All the sockets work, but we wanted to make sure there are no wires hiding in the walls.. we tested by disconnecting one of the 2 lives going into the fuse.. when we did this we tested the 11 sockets ..they all worked except the one just as you walk in the LR.. when we switch the lives at the fuse, the one in the LR room now works but the other 10 stops working.. this tells us that we have again unintensionally created two radial circuits both ending with an exposed live wire in the wall somewhere...1 radial has 1 socket .. and the other radial has the other 10.. and we have a break between socket 10 and 11.. any suggestions how to resolve?

Is it be to remove the outgoing cable in the single radial.. and then find where the rouge outgoing wire is in the other 10 sockets..

 

[mickfred]

I know mr light-year I play good cop you can be bad cop

 

[buzzlightyear]

we tested by disconnecting one of the 2 lives going into the fuse..

Nas sorry if am wrong but is there a spark doing this or is this you

yeah.

 

[Naz]

Mikefred

Your comments about a loose live.

The issue is i think there os a socket 12 and maybe even 13 behond the walls with the 2.5 ready to be put into the sockets

The sockets only work as i believe it has stopped being a ring corcuit and become 2 radials with 2 lives at the end..somewhere in the walls

 

[Naz]

Mikefred

Your comments about a loose live.

The issue is i think there os a socket 12 and maybe even 13 behond the walls with the 2.5 ready to be put into the sockets

The sockets only work as i believe it has stopped being a ring corcuit and become 2 radials with 2 lives at the end..somewhere in the walls

 

[mickfred]

I know mr light-year I play good cop you can be bad cop

 

[Naz]

I said "we" because he needed me to che k the sockets while he disconnected at the board. Anyway.. i have no reason to pretend here..

 

[buzzlightyear]

I know mr light-year I play good cop you can be bad cop

no ,the idea is the op is fishing how to do it .but go ahead good cop.

 

[mickfred]

Okay thlhat makes more sense so it not socketd 1to10 and then 11 . It's 1 to 10 then 13 with 2socketd missing. Again get him back people make mistake and the fact it been noticed means it can be fixed . He may be new , but part of learning is fixing his mistakes . Again he may point to whoever should have pulled the cables though and blame them but he was the one who never tested it

 

[mickfred]

Mr good cop if you please

 

[buzzlightyear]

Again get him back people make mistake and the fact it been noticed means it can be fixed . He may be new

what learning on the job from this post .me don't think so .

 

[Naz]

I will be getting him back.

Yes.. so if the first electician hadnt cut the loops then 12 and 13 wouldnt matter and id leave it as i dont want more holea in my new walls. The issue is that now if i turn the ring on i will have live wores in the walls somewhere.

So im going to tell him that ther is no need to find the missig 2...instead, socket 11 should have one live coming in from the board, and a dead cable comim in from 12 or 13.... so if he dicomments the dead one coming in from 12 or 13... then that solves half the problem.. the other half of the problem is in one of the other 10 working sockets the is a live wire leaving it that ends in not in a socket but in the wall somewhere..

 

[buzzlightyear]

op ,IMO me thinks that looking at this post ,that the said spark might again might should know what he is doing .but there again .

so if the first electician

how many sparks did the job ?

 

[mickfred]

Yep that's the issue . Let him sort it out don't try to fix it yourself

 

[Naz]

Maybe i should correct my numbering

1 to 10 works

13 works

11 and 12 are behind a wall somewhere with the 2.5mm cut

A solution is to make to radials

1 to 10 on one and 13 on the other.. the issue is 10 has a live feed going out of it (that should go to socket 11 but instead goes is behind plasterboard somewherel) and socket 13 has a live going out of it that should go to 12 but again goes behind a wall somewhere

 

[Naz]

Buzz.. 2 electricians

one did the first fix..and now this quy doing the second