sacked for what i deemed as safe

[GWOD]

just an update big day on tuesdsay & wednesday
dont know if i mentioned this incident also
had some evidence sent through to prove ive been treeted fair i was accused of not testing an eatrh the company took the tester off me so only had my stinal to test for continuity never questioned in investigation but they took it upon themselves to take disaplinary action

a bloke has admitted to not knowing what he is doing and leaving a house with 2.5 mm ( if that his words ) as a main earth his investigation took 15 min start to finish with a 5 min ajurnment and was cleared
when i was asked if i tested the earth i said no as in no not adiquatly as my tester will give no reading
hope this is good for me any views
i am not working as a spark now as my confidence took a big knock plus dont ever want to be in a possition where a duty holder can take a dislike ignor all h & s ( guideance notes) ectto move the blame off himslf on to me and accuse me of endangering lives when he and is lapdog supervisors have been guilty first

 

[Nicholssparks]

hi just found this site
can anybody tell me if i have a case for unfair dismissal

i had a board change to do when i got to it and started my work i was not given the periodic that was done 2 weeks prior by my supervisor i noticed a ring main that was bunched i disconected identified the ring placed it in its own circuit it was previosly in a old wylex re-wirable board on a 30amp moved the ring into a new 17th edition board on a 32a mcb the cable that was bunched i placed in a 16 amp mcb in the new board making it safer than it was previously as i did not know what this circuit was i left it swiched off and reported it to my supervisor i was expecting to go back to the property to locate this the next day along with a fault on the ring main my supervisor wouldnt let me go back ........

i later found out during my suspention that the circuit that i had isolated was for a bathroom heater in zone 2 it had been noted on the periodic that it was a code 1 ( required urgent attention ) this was disconnected while the ring was tested on the periodic to identifiy the ring then reinsated along with the ring ......
so the person who done the periodic disconnected the heater along with the ring then reinstated the ring along with the heater noted it as a code 1 got away with out anything where as i isolated the heater and made it 100% safer but i was dismissed

all views welcome do i have a case for unfair dismissal

you should have been given the periodic test as this was proberly what got your company the job at the property. Your supervisor or manager should have made you aware and given you the periodic inspection and test cirtifcate as this had what would have made you awre of the problems with the wiring. Also the person how tested the property first should have disconected the heater in zone 2 as it was not with in 7671 require-ments and as for noting it as a code one he him self has made a bigger mistake by pointing it out him self? HOPE THIS HELPS LET ME KNOW OK

just an update big day on tuesdsay & wednesday
dont know if i mentioned this incident also
had some evidence sent through to prove ive been treeted fair i was accused of not testing an eatrh the company took the tester off me so only had my stinal to test for continuity never questioned in investigation but they took it upon themselves to take disaplinary action

a bloke has admitted to not knowing what he is doing and leaving a house with 2.5 mm ( if that his words ) as a main earth his investigation took 15 min start to finish with a 5 min ajurnment and was cleared
when i was asked if i tested the earth i said no as in no not adiquatly as my tester will give no reading
hope this is good for me any views
i am not working as a spark now as my confidence took a big knock plus dont ever want to be in a possition where a duty holder can take a dislike ignor all h & s ( guideance notes) ectto move the blame off himslf on to me and accuse me of endangering lives when he and is lapdog supervisors have been guilty first

i would take the view with out the right equipment and being told to do the work any way then the work should never have been carried out. But i is down to your company to provid the right eqipment for the right job. If you are a good spark then dont let ----s like that knock your confidence. I always say if a job is werth doing then do it properly first time round. Dont let othere people push you into doing things you know that you shouldn't do please stick to the regs 7671 then you are always within the law you step out then its you that gets the flack. Remember your name is on the cirtificate!!!

 

[ian.settle1]

just an update big day on tuesdsay & wednesday
dont know if i mentioned this incident also
had some evidence sent through to prove ive been treeted fair i was accused of not testing an eatrh the company took the tester off me so only had my stinal to test for continuity never questioned in investigation but they took it upon themselves to take disaplinary action

a bloke has admitted to not knowing what he is doing and leaving a house with 2.5 mm ( if that his words ) as a main earth his investigation took 15 min start to finish with a 5 min ajurnment and was cleared What is this about, which bloke and cleared off what?
when i was asked if i tested the earth i said no as in no not adiquatly as my tester will give no reading hope this is good for me any views What do mean tester give no reading? Do you mean you used a voltage /continuity indicatoer as in your sentinal tester to test?
i am not working as a spark now as my confidence took a big knock plus dont ever want to be in a possition where a duty holder can take a dislike ignor all h & s ( guideance notes) ectto move the blame off himslf on to me and accuse me of endangering lives when he and is lapdog supervisors have been guilty first

Can you answer questions above?

 

[GWOD]

Can you answer questions above?

someone i worked with tested a house and noted 2.5 ,mm for main earth then left it went back after asking an unqualified person as he was unsure of what the regs the company have submitted a training log that they are useing as evidance against me but his name is on it also


as to my tester correct it is a voltage / continuity ( stinal ) tester no digital reading

you should have been given the periodic test as this was proberly what got your company the job at the property. Your supervisor or manager should have made you aware and given you the periodic inspection and test cirtifcate as this had what would have made you awre of the problems with the wiring. Also the person how tested the property first should have disconected the heater in zone 2 as it was not with in 7671 require-ments and as for noting it as a code one he him self has made a bigger mistake by pointing it out him self? HOPE THIS HELPS LET ME KNOW OK




i would take the view with out the right equipment and being told to do the work any way then the work should never have been carried out. But i is down to your company to provid the right eqipment for the right job. If you are a good spark then dont let ----s like that knock your confidence. I always say if a job is werth doing then do it properly first time round. Dont let othere people push you into doing things you know that you shouldn't do please stick to the regs 7671 then you are always within the law you step out then its you that gets the flack. Remember your name is on the cirtificate!!!

i did not sign the cert i was doing as i had not finished and expected to back to continue with the work the next day but was removed from the job

 

[suburban]

Hope all goes well for Tuesday and Wednesday.

 

[Nicholssparks]

someone i worked with tested a house and noted 2.5 ,mm for main earth then left it went back after asking an unqualified person as he was unsure of what the regs the company have submitted a training log that they are useing as evidance against me but his name is on it also


as to my tester correct it is a voltage / continuity ( stinal ) tester no digital reading



i did not sign the cert i was doing as i had not finished and expected to back to continue with the work the next day but was removed from the job[/quote


i can not beleive your company did not give you the cert for one this was a must. secondly it would have been better to have sent you back to fix what was wrong i now it was not your fault but to fix the same problem that was first relised. have you been to court yet. if not you will need a solicitor let me now.

also before leaving a electrical installation or remedial works all certificates should be compleated in full to protect your self and the company you work for

 

[skatingsparks]

So what happened!!! Di d you win your case!!

 

[GWOD]

Its today and tommorow

 

[m4tty]

let us know how you got on mate and good luck and either way these peeps need an after hours visit.

 

[gunner]

good luck

 

[Andyw22]

just been reading through the topic hope its gone okay for you today mate, any news?
quick question in relation to it as im unsure...say you've done a PIR on a domestic property and for example its a split load board so the lights have no rcd protection and you code 1 it for the switch drops in the wall but the customer doesnt accept your quote for replacing with rcbo's then are you still liable?

 

[danzor]

Did GWOD get sent on a 'HM Holiday'?

 

[GWOD]

hello all
first let me thank you all for advice and support

i was in court for 3 things
1
before i was suspended i had requsted unpaid leave for b4 xmas but had not been granted so on the day of my suspention i wrote a letter saying i no longer required it .....

the judge said to my x company i did not have to give them a reason so they should pay me the 3 days pay owed

2 in relation to the unidentified circuit i have always agreed it should have not been connected and having the periodic would have made me not connect it my boss was told his comments were harsh and so where his actions i was cleared of this

3 the fact of not testing the water bonding although i had used my continuity / voltage tester i had said all along i had tested it this way and was not happy with using it and would have prefered to use a ohm meter to obtain a reading i stressed i did not have a tester and did the best i could at the time with the materials i had and obstacals in my way ( my boss lol)
the judge deemed that as it was not wrote down in the minutes of my disaplinary they had tried to find something but were unable to and in the law they cannot override the decition unless there is 100% proof......
so i was not awarded compo and they won this one on a technicality all because of a crap HR Advisor.

i did however make one of the directors look a fool over number 1 my line manager look a fool because he was saying they did not have to rectifiy any immeadiate dangers on the periodic, and the fact he was saying the periodic is like a MOT for a car and the person doing the remeadials does not have to have it and the supervisor who signs the nic eic certs as he had told the court how important it was to check the earth yet the periodic for the property i was working in the person who done it put n/a on the water bonding and the supervisor signed it off ..........
not the exact result i wanted but got my name cleared and the 3 judges took 4hrs coming to there decition prooves at least they belived me and where doing there best to clear me

there is a matter that i was accused of putting peoples life at risk in my eyes has alway been slander SO now im thinking of a no win no fee for my 2 line managers for civil action
i did warn the HR advisor when i think i am right im like a dog with a bone............ grrrrrrr

 

[gunner]

i would talk to a solicitor to see if you have grounds for a civil suite.if you have then go for it,it might make your former employer think twice in the future

 

[Modernelectric]

Keep your chin up mate. It sounds to me like your a very competent sparky and you did everything possible to work within the law and keep everyone safe. Best wishes for the future.

Martin.