school caretaker worries

[Devonchris]

I can’t see a County Council being any less complaint.

It's not county council Westie, it's an academy trust. The more they can shave off the running costs then the more they can pay themselves.

See this article (not a paper I normally read, I might add)

Tally of £150,000 school academy bosses jumps by 20%

Six-figure salaries at 988 charitable trusts despite increase in deficits

www.theguardian.com

 

[FatAlan]

As above mate. Keep a diary of what you have seen. You’ve reported it now. I doubt you will get any come back as School Academy’s get plenty of bad press and I’m sure the fat cat directors won’t want any more....if you know what I mean! . I take it that there is nothing immediately dangerous that needs sorting before the kids come back?

 

[Midwest]

It's not county council Westie, it's an academy trust. The more they can shave off the running costs then the more they can pay themselves.

See this article (not a paper I normally read, I might add)

Tally of £150,000 school academy bosses jumps by 20%

Six-figure salaries at 988 charitable trusts despite increase in deficits

www.theguardian.com

They’re still inspected by Ofsted, and like my not-for-profit charity organisation, compliance is still a big thing.

 

[ChipFanDave]

I just do the bins and toilets now and lock the school . .

I know I'm right in what iv done and now have to live with that .

Much better to know you've done the right thing than to sit around regretting you did nothing. You are not this persons employer, manager or supervisor and not an electrician this means you can't take on the responsibility for what may well be shoddy fixes and poor working practices.

Good on you for raising these concerns with the people who should be responsible for it.

 

[jannadog]

hello everyone . I have an update for you as it's been over a month....IV HEARD NOTHING...

Apparently an expert has been in and said the work is "shoddy ". but safe . today a kid cut through a cable on a machine is sparked and then started to burn . the RCD did NOT trip out . now I have emailed the chief executive who had the expert report yesterday...I have been told it dose not need a certificate of completion as the rooms not finished .... bull ----. kids are in the room the rooms are finished...

is it time to report this to the HSE

I have to be honist I'm scared to touch anything I have a AC voltage detector on me at all times...

 

[Pete999]

hello everyone . I have an update fort you as it's been over a month....IV HEARD NOTHING...

Apparently an expert has been in as said the work is "shoddy ". but safe . today a kit cut through a cable on a machine is sparked and then started to burn . the RCD did NOT trip out . now I have emailed the chief executive who had the report yesterday...I have been told it dose not need a certificate of completion as the rooms not finished .... bull ----. kids are in the room the rooms are finished...

is it time to report this to the HSE

I have to be honist I'm scared to touch anything I have a AC voltage detector on me at all times...

It would be helpful to know the extent of the works carried out, the excuse the room hasn't been finished is in my opinion BS if the electrics are done and dusted then a cert IS required, advice if you are concerned enough to raise your concerns on here then maybe a call to the HSE would be required afterall if you are the responsible person I would do so rather than try and explain why you didn't believe me it's no picnic, been there and done that. If you are genuinely concerned and explain carefully your concerns I can't see the HSE chastising you. Good luck, May be get some independent advice first though, from an expert.











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[Lister1987]

hello everyone . I have an update for you as it's been over a month....IV HEARD NOTHING...

Apparently an expert has been in and said the work is "shoddy ". but safe . today a kid cut through a cable on a machine is sparked and then started to burn . the RCD did NOT trip out . now I have emailed the chief executive who had the expert report yesterday...I have been told it dose not need a certificate of completion as the rooms not finished .... bull ----. kids are in the room the rooms are finished...

is it time to report this to the HSE

I have to be honist I'm scared to touch anything I have a AC voltage detector on me at all times...

Ask for a copy of the report so that you can understand, operationally speaking, what has gone on, then get a second opinion in. Was the near-miss reported to the health and safety officer for the organisation?

 

[jannadog]

i do not know what has been done it said . iv had to go to HR and ask . I'll update you when I know more . and thank you

 

[Pete999]

i do not know what has been done it said . iv had to go to HR and ask . I'll update you when I know more . and thank you

HR (Human Remains) will only reiterate what the CEO said, and he probably knows diddly squat about Electrical Safety. only relating to what he has been told, what does the H&S officer have to say about this? or is that a daft question??

 

[Pete999]

HR (Human Remains) will only reiterate what the CEO said, and he probably knows diddly squat about Electrical Safety. only relating to what he has been told, what does the H&S officer have to say about this? or is that a daft question??

With all due respect to School Caretakers every where, they do a thankless job and to try and pile extra duties on to them, which many are not, through any fault of their making qualified to undertake, don't Schools these days employ a Facility Manager? of oversea contractors or technical work, I' ready and willing to advise. or even accept a post as Facility Manager, as long as I can use the Staff room, I'll bring me own Sarnies, School Dinner surely, aint improved that much have they????? lol

 

[jannadog]

can you tell me if this is true it's regarding what iv been told on above ....

"MCB appears to be functioning correctly. Arcing cable could be caused by high voltage on the neutral return. No evidence of short circuit."

This was the 240v cable that was arcking and smoking in 2 weeks ago on Monday the school want to see me at 8am to tell me what they are going to do .... the chief executive is also the head of health and safety.. I'm feeling ---- right now as this is being brushed under the carpet...

im really sorry to go on but this is the only place I can talk about it

 

[westward10]

You say the cable was damaged which may have resulted in damage to a conductor which reduced its csa or severed it completely. This may result in overheating from arcing and hence a smoking cable, this fault would probably not trip an mcb or rcd.

 

[Pete999]

can you tell me if this is true it's regarding what iv been told on above ....

"MCB appears to be functioning correctly. Arcing cable could be caused by high voltage on the neutral return. No evidence of short circuit."

This was the 240v cable that was arcking and smoking in 2 weeks ago ☝☝☝ on Monday the school want to see me at 8am to tell me what they are going to do .... the chief executive is also the head of health and safety.. I'm feeling ---- right now as this is being brushed under the carpet...

im really sorry to go on but this is the only place I can talk about it

Difficult with the CEO being H&S Officers well, how was this situation transmitted to you?
Confliction of interests springs to mind, have you a H&S POLICY, is it posted for all to see, are visitors subject to a briefing before they enter the site? or do they follow their own H&S rules? sounds like a right boggers muddle, backside covering at panic stations, you need urgent help Mate, from a H&S professional, BS rules it seems at your place of employment.

 

[DPG]

No idea what a brother's middle is but I like the sound if it.

I agree with Pete999, there's a definite conflict of interest going on there.

 

[Pete999]

No idea what a brother's middle is but I like the sound if it.

I agree with Pete999, there's a definite conflict of interest going on there.

Bogger's muddle Mate