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So what part are you referring to? The bit about wont be inspected? Or inspection of other electrical equipment?Section D
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So what part are you referring to? The bit about wont be inspected? Or inspection of other electrical equipment?Section D
Nah. Handful of Wagos and 20 mins and you can have that spick and span and safe. I quite like octopus wiring, where everything meets at a convenient and accessible point. Poking a load of CPCs in one choc block is no good but a couple of 8-way Wagos will sort it all out nicely.
No idea what you want with a 6mm CPC & it doesn't need bonding. It's an accessory, just earth it to the CPC like you would a metal light fitting.
Hi Anthony, except the unit that you have linked to is purely a method of connecting 6 cables together ... 'power in' to 5 'subordinate' devices! It would appear that perhaps as many as 2 of Surewire's devices, 1 SW4L-MF and 1 SW2L-MF > Products and Benefits - Surewire - http://www.surewire.co.uk/products/light-and-switch-junction-boxes/products-and-benefits/ <, would be required to replace the arrangement in the picture. Their advertising banner on their website suggests that they have a 6-way version, but there is no information about it in the 'detailed' descriptions of their products. However, given that there are 2 ends of 3-Core + CPC at this point, the method of installation of a single (?) 2-way switch function used here would either require modification of the existing cabling installation or some 'extraneous' connections to be made outside of the Surewire junction box to deliver a Twin + CPC Switch 'In' to their 'simple' standard approach! Requiring the retention of the existing box alongside 2 new junction boxes or the introduction of 3 new junction boxes!Could change it to one of these there are more way units available.
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I have taken on a kitchen rewire, with a utility & bathroom addition too, In the loft there is an old style junction box for the lighting circuit, I've seen this method before in many old council houses, Its fed from a 10A mcb with 1.5mm t&e & it is a central point for lots of loop fed switching & a common for many feeds, basically just allowing many parallel connections.
I was always trained to wire in series for lighting, keeping my neutrals at the switches, I'm wondering if this breaches any wiring regulations, The maximum load does not exceed 10A for the over all circuit, the 1.5mm t&e feed is about 10 meters & does come through some light fiber wool insulation, so I'm happy that no cable carrying capacities have been breached, & currently plan to tidy up the JB somewhat, with some extra earthing & better connections.
It will be a minor works certificate for this one, as there is no new circuit.
Thoughts please, would you pass it?
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The main issue you have here is that the adaptable box is not earthed but fitting a separate 6.0 cpc is not necessarily the easiest solution. The other issue in my opinion is that terminating 8 or 9 conductors into block connectors is never going to provide a connection of ensured integrity.
Yes, with a piece of wire. If this were regular loop-in wiring via each lighting point there would be half a dozen or more CPC connections in series between DB and final point. Here there would be only two. You could use a solid screw-terminal commoning bar but TBH I'd daisy-chain two 8-way grey 773s.Would you 'extend' the 8 'ways'? If so, what would you use to connect them together?
Yes, with a piece of wire. If this were regular loop-in wiring via each lighting point there would be half a dozen or more CPC connections in series between DB and final point. Here there would be only two. You could use a solid screw-terminal commoning bar but TBH I'd daisy-chain two 8-way grey 773s.
Will this JB remain accessible?Hi
I have taken on a kitchen rewire, with a utility & bathroom addition too, In the loft there is an old style junction box for the lighting circuit, I've seen this method before in many old council houses, Its fed from a 10A mcb with 1.5mm t&e & it is a central point for lots of loop fed switching & a common for many feeds, basically just allowing many parallel connections.
I was always trained to wire in series for lighting, keeping my neutrals at the switches, I'm wondering if this breaches any wiring regulations, The maximum load does not exceed 10A for the over all circuit, the 1.5mm t&e feed is about 10 meters & does come through some light fiber wool insulation, so I'm happy that no cable carrying capacities have been breached, & currently plan to tidy up the JB somewhat, with some extra earthing & better connections.
It will be a minor works certificate for this one, as there is no new circuit.
Thoughts please, would you pass it?
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9 JB's to replace 1?Thanks LN, I ended up with 7 WAGOBOX Light and a couple of WAGOBOX junction boxes.
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