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Sorry Westie, missed this thread yesterday. Hope she's ok, she has obviously had some very hard times lately. I wish I could press a button and get rid of all the nasty, horrible people in the world. Just the other day I was crossing the road at a zebra crossing with my six year old son and some moron saw us and accelerated towards us, straight through the crossing, laughing. I had to wrench my son by the arm out of the way, dislocating his shoulder. I was then faced with the questions and made to feel even more guilty at the hospital. Yes I was angry, and still am. The only way I can get round it is to try and force myself not to think about it.

Sorry to waffle on. Anyway, look after her and also yourself Westie.
 
Thanks, I can well imagine the questions at the hospital. There are more good than bad people, but it is the actions of the bad which have the most impact.
 
The B******s that do such things should have their finger and toe nails slowly pulled out with pliers!

Half the problem these days is the justice system is too soft with certain types of criminals!

The world is full of the "do gooder's" who believe these criminals have problems that can be solved by treating them nice and locking them up in prisons that are more like holiday camps!

When I was a kid my old man would beat me if I did anything wrong. Especially if it was something against another person or a lack of disrespect. Was this wrong / child abuse? These days he would be locked up for such things. But it worked, I deserved my punishments and I respect my father for acting the way he did. I quickly learned right from wrong and I 'm certain it stood me in good stead for my future.

It angers me also Westward to hear such stories like yours. I hope your sister in law sees justice done and has some good luck soon!
 
Not a nice thing to hear about, it does ensure that the rose tinted spectacles are not in place but it is not the way to arrange this.
The lack of empathy that these people have is unbelievable, to be unable to even consider the effects on other people from your actions is sub human at best.
I hope that the effect on you and your family is not long lasting at that a good resolution is found.
Best wishes.
 
Thanks again for all the responses, she was trying to look on the bright side this morning because she asked if I had any Tcut for the car, the car is written off.
 
Sorry to hear about this horrific incident. Some people are just sociopaths, not capable of empathy or basic human understanding. Nowt you can do with them if they would consider doing this in the first place.
 
Only just seen this Westward. That's an absolutely horrible thing to happen and I'm sorry for you.
I do hope your family are fully recovered and they have caught the people responsible. I guess if your sister in law is starting to joke about it that's a good thing.
 
Only just seen this Westward. That's an absolutely horrible thing to happen and I'm sorry for you.
I do hope your family are fully recovered and they have caught the people responsible. I guess if your sister in law is starting to joke about it that's a good thing.
Thanks mate, the people won't be caught I'm afraid unless someone holds their hands up. The oil tank clear up has turned into a major problem because the loss assessors say the fuel oil has caused an environmental issue. It will all get resolved in the end.
 
I'm not sure the world today is any worse than it was 100 years ago. There were some right 'orrible people about then, and there are some right 'orrible people about now. I think the difference nowadays is we live in a connected world so you hear of more events like this happening. 100 years ago you wouldn't have heard about any rapes or animal cruelty unless they happened on your doorstep. Now, we hear stories from the world over, which probably makes us think the world is getting worse.

Anyway, that's by the by, I hope she's okay and that the little inbred is found and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
 
I tend to disagree with your Hightower.

If you look at crime statistics, they have gradually risen, some quite considerably, over the years. Not with standing the ease of reporting crime now, compared to say in 1898 and the way the police are monitored, to record crime correctly and not 'cook the books'.

If we look at the Historical crime data for England & Wales (published by HO July 2012), and look at the primary offence of Homicide, there were 328 like recorded offences in 1898, with 898 in 2002. If we look at criminal damage, 582 like offences in 1898, whereas 1,064,495 like offences in 2002.

In 1898, there were 82,426 recorded offences (including burning crops & destroying ships!) and 5,525,024 in 2002. Making those allowances as mentioned above, certainly there are more offences committed now, than yesteryear.

Population would obviously affect crime statistics; 32,527,843 in 1898, 58,789,194 in 2002 (different sources). There are many other reasons for the increase in crime (and decrease), and perhaps your right about the ways these offences are publicised in the ways previously they weren't; Westwards is a good (if I can use that word) example.

I do agree, that we live in a more civilised & enlightened society now, than when my grandfather was born say. But I'm not sure he would see it as a an improvement.

Just my opinion :)

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