shop wiring in france

[antengland]

Hi Guys, i am an english electrical contractor, and have been asked to quote for some works in a shop in Paris.
Any body had any experience on non domestic wiring?
who do i get to certify the works?
will it need certifying if i don't install new circuits?

any help / info would be appreciated.

Ant.

 

[mayfair]

Depends how you would react to a French electrician doing electrical work whilst visiting the UK!!!!!

my father in law has got a place in nice and i have changed various light fittings over the years is that aloud lol

 

[Farmelectrics]

Well if it was in one of his family's homes who cares

 

[mayfair]

Lets hope people take that in to consideration when there's a French bloke in the wholesalers holding the Q up trying to ask for stuff in broken English.

Well if it was in one of his family's homes who cares

 

[Guitarist]

Lets hope people take that in to consideration when there's a French bloke in the wholesalers holding the Q up trying to ask for stuff in broken English.

Plenty of eastern Europeans doing electrical work in the UK now...

 

[mayfair]

Hear some of them doing a very good job . suppose good and bad in all.

Plenty of eastern Europeans doing electrical work in the UK now...

 

[WilcoxElec]

Actually, because the schema is TT there is a quick and dirty test to do exactly that, it doesn't give a value for the impedence, but it checks that it is not far too high.

 

[Farmelectrics]

not saying there all the same but there was an iranian spark on a petro chem site few years back making swa off like stuffing glands ha ha we got a load of weekends putting his work right never come across a brit spark who dosnt no how to gland cables

 

[Frenchsparky]

Also I do live in France as well as Victor did cover that part very well and there is couple local Nomes ( Reguations ) it will show up as well.

Of course if you have more question you need to know just feel free to concat either moi or Victor one of us will reply to your question.

Of course we do also have 240 volts as well but no ring circuit at all so keep in your mind.

( Note : Not only I do live in France but also I have a house in USA side as well and I am licensed in both location )

Merci,
Marc

 

[antengland]

Also I do live in France as well as Victor did cover that part very well and there is couple local Nomes ( Reguations ) it will show up as well.

Of course if you have more question you need to know just feel free to concat either moi or Victor one of us will reply to your question.

Of course we do also have 240 volts as well but no ring circuit at all so keep in your mind.

( Note : Not only I do live in France but also I have a house in USA side as well and I am licensed in both location )

Merci,
Marc

Marc,
Last week, I actually went out to Paris, initially to look at the work involved, then at the last minute was told I need to be starting the work. It is within a department store, and the main contractor is installing the feed to our small unit (16A only!!). We have been told to contact a consultant who will arrange an initial inspection report for us before the power can be turned on.
pew have also been asked to barry out some work in another department store, where we believe we will not be allowed to work, so I am looking for a French registered contractor to carry out the work, with myself over seeing. Would you be interested?
The work involves swapping some recessed lights in a ceiling, adding a few and installing a socket .
The work is in Paris and will need to be done at night.

 

[antengland]

Victor, nice to see someone writing something that makes sense!!
Last week, I actually went out to Paris, initially to look at the work involved, then at the last minute was told I need to be starting the work. It is within a department store, and the main contractor is installing the feed to our small unit (16A only!!). We have been told to contact a consultant who will arrange an initial inspection report for us before the power can be turned on.
we have also been asked to carry out some work in another department store, where we believe we will not be allowed to work, so I am looking for a French registered contractor to carry out the work, with myself over seeing. Would you be interested?
The work involves swapping some recessed lights in a ceiling, adding a few and installing a socket .
The work is in Paris and will need to be done at night.

 

[Top Cat]

If you would like to PM with some basic details of what you have been asked to do, then I will try to help you.

However you should be aware that to legally work here in France, you need to be registered here, so you have a SIRET No and have both Responcibility Civile (3rd party liab) and Decannal Ins (10 year guarantee ins). The second one as far as I am aware is not available in the UK.

Look forward to hearing from you

Victor

Hi Victor, as a frequent visitour and having a french brother in law you must be some sort of God to be working in France!
To anyone thinking you can just "do a bit of electrics" in France i would say don't bother, we have in this country a belief that what we do is the best so if we work in another country it will be good enough.
France is a bureaucratic nightmare and if you are English doing the French out of work you will be "shopped".

 

[Victor]

Victor, nice to see someone writing something that makes sense!!
Last week, I actually went out to Paris, initially to look at the work involved, then at the last minute was told I need to be starting the work. It is within a department store, and the main contractor is installing the feed to our small unit (16A only!!). We have been told to contact a consultant who will arrange an initial inspection report for us before the power can be turned on.
we have also been asked to carry out some work in another department store, where we believe we will not be allowed to work, so I am looking for a French registered contractor to carry out the work, with myself over seeing. Would you be interested?
The work involves swapping some recessed lights in a ceiling, adding a few and installing a socket .
The work is in Paris and will need to be done at night.

Thanks Antengland. Although Paris is 'do-able' being about 2.5 hours away, I am fortunate enough at the moment to have a full diary so I wouldn't be able to even look at the job for some time. However if you need any advice just ask and I will try to help you out.

Kind regards
Victor

 

[Victor]

Hi Victor, as a frequent visitour and having a french brother in law you must be some sort of God to be working in France!
To anyone thinking you can just "do a bit of electrics" in France i would say don't bother, we have in this country a belief that what we do is the best so if we work in another country it will be good enough.
France is a bureaucratic nightmare and if you are English doing the French out of work you will be "shopped".

There are good things about English electrical systems and there are good things about French one's as well, but to say that the English one is the best and that if you work in another country then it will be 'good enough' I would have to disagree with but there are many English electricans how think just that.

I have seen many a case here in France where an English electrician has come over here to work and has done exactly as they would have done at home, including the use of english materials such as t and e cable and single pole mcb's both of which are illegal.

I myself am fully conversant with the French regs, am registered and insured so even if I were to be 'shopped'. I am legal in my business. However there may be others out there who are trading but are not.

 

[antengland]

Thanks Victor. Any idea where I would be best to look for someone? I had a link to the French equivilant of the yellow pages, but can't find it.
funny you should say about twin and earth cable. (reply to top cat)I was given a list of cable to choose from, one of which turned out to be standard 318 flex! ( H05 VV-F)!

 

[Top Cat]

There are good things about English electrical systems and there are good things about French one's as well, but to say that the English one is the best and that if you work in another country then it will be 'good enough' I would have to disagree with but there are many English electricans how think just that.

I have seen many a case here in France where an English electrician has come over here to work and has done exactly as they would have done at home, including the use of english materials such as t and e cable and single pole mcb's both of which are illegal.

I myself am fully conversant with the French regs, am registered and insured so even if I were to be 'shopped'. I am legal in my business. However there may be others out there who are trading but are not.

Hi Victor i think you misunderstood my post (and i probably was not very clear) what i meant to say is that some people have a belief that we are the best electricians in the world so it would be good enough for any country. As you know this is bo**ocks! You need to know the reg's and working practices of another country.
I knew from previous posts that you were a fully registered spark in France so my post about being "shopped" was for the arrogant few that think they can just go over and "do a bit of electrics".