Short Courses and QS System amongst concerns of DCLG Commons Select Committee

[professional]

As some may (or may not) be aware, on 6th Jan 2014 five electricians and the Scheme operators gave evidence before the DCLG Commons Select Committee :

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The Committee clearly have serious concerns regarding :

1. Electrical scheme members using "short courses" as a means of entry to electrical Competent Persons Schemes

2. The Qualified Supervisor system.

3. The lack of any requirement for either the QS or the individuals actually carrying out electrical work to have any training, qualifications or experience to meet Scheme membership requirements.

4. The number of untrained, unqualified and inexperienced individuals being granted "grandfather rights" by the Scheme operators.


The "short-course" route to scheme entry may well soon cease to be an option for those not possessing sufficient relevant experience. However, the issue of grandfather rights may well affect a large number of current Scheme members who may find themselves unable to PROVE their competence independently of their Scheme operator.

Furthermore, those wishing to gain scheme entry before any potential "deadline" would do well to reconsider their proposed business plan .... just a thought before you spend your savings or get into debt ....

 

[Meggerman]

The Ironic thing of all this is that all of you Electrical Trainee haters with old 236 and 2360 Quals will now have to take NVQ 3 as well or you will be classed imcompetant.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

??? What was?

deleting threads that were considered `risque`

and it wasn`t you that did it...we all know who it was..

 

[D Skelton]

The Ironic thing of all this is that all of you Electrical Trainee haters with old 236 and 2360 Quals will now have to take NVQ 3 as well or you will be classed imcompetant.

Not at all. A core qualification is all we're asking for, plus proof of experience. An NVQ3 is just one way of proving experience. You don't need an NVQ3 for a JIB gold card.

 

[markc123]

The Ironic thing of all this is that all of you Electrical Trainee haters with old 236 and 2360 Quals will now have to take NVQ 3 as well or you will be classed imcompetant.

That made me chuckle.

They'd be fkin uproar and riots if that were the case haha

 

[Spark1979]

Not at all. A core qualification is all we're asking for, plus proof of experience. An NVQ3 is just one way of proving experience. You don't need an NVQ3 for a JIB gold card.

Agreed but most must be able to show apprenticeship or some kind of training not just sitting exams with no practical experience. The jib card is one of the only thing qualified electricians have any more

 

[D Skelton]

Agreed but most must be able to show apprenticeship or some kind of training not just sitting exams with no practical experience. The jib card is one of the only thing qualified electricians have any more

Lol, read what I said again mate

You don't need to have completed an apprenticeship to be able to prove experience, although in todays world it is preferable, and it is straight forward, as you don't then need to be assessed on a case by case basis.

I'll say it again, you don't need an NVQ3 to gain a JIB gold card, but it is a hell of a lot more straight forward if you do have one!

 

[not clever]

Guaranteed this thread gets closed and removed.

No for that to happen you need to include or mention the following
T.E.F

 

[guest119]

The Ironic thing of all this is that all of you Electrical Trainee haters with old 236 and 2360 Quals will now have to take NVQ 3 as well or you will be classed imcompetant.

The irony here is your attempt at the spelling of the word ...........INCOMPETENT!

Boydy

 

[Meggerman]

Boydy, if I was writing in the context of spelling and then incorrectly spelt, that would be Ironic. What is ironic is you correcting me on spelling and incorrectly stating that is ironic. That is irony in it's purest form!! :cheesy:

 

[Meggerman]

Back to the thread, agreed, JIB grading is the best we have at the moment as already stated this can be achieved via NVQ and/or apprenticeships

 

[D Skelton]

Ooh I do love it when a grammar ---- gets it handed to them!

Gotta love it Boydy

I gave up on being a grammar ---- when I engaged in all out war on another grammar ----. It didn't end well for me! Haha!

 

[Knobhead]

I cdn'uolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg: the phaonmneel pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rseearch taem at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Scuh a cdonition is arppoiatrely cllaed Typoglycemia . "Amzanig huh? Yaeh and you awlyas thguoht slpeling was ipmorantt."

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I cdn'uolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg: the phaonmneel pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rseearch taem at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Scuh a cdonition is arppoiatrely cllaed Typoglycemia . "Amzanig huh? Yaeh and you awlyas thguoht slpeling was ipmorantt."

eh?...

 

[markc123]

I cdn'uolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg: the phaonmneel pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rseearch taem at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Scuh a cdonition is arppoiatrely cllaed Typoglycemia . "Amzanig huh? Yaeh and you awlyas thguoht slpeling was ipmorantt."

Haha - that is brilliant.

 

[Knobhead]

Sorry, I thought a bit of levity was in order.

I’m keeping out of this argument. But I will say I fully support Damian in his campaign.

Watching from the sidelines I’m getting dizzy trying to follow convoluted circles.