Smart home install containment

[cliffed]

Doing a install for lighting specialist company,which involves Cat 7 cabling,quite a few to various points.
The engineer wants it put in the floor,before the actual floor goes down.
Seems a good idea but he’s on about 25mm plastic conduit,I’ve been looking at the plans,& I really dont think it’s a good idea.
There’s a lot of cabling,at least 4 Cat 7 to tv area plus co ax for TVs.
I’m more inclined to put 2x2 plastic trunking in,there will be no chance if renewing these cables,or putting loop or through boxes in,& no acess to it once the floor is down.
It’s the best route but not ideal,any thoughts on containment for this.

 

[Strima]

Are all the data cables running back to one managed switch?

Or is it feasible to run one CAT to each point and use a smaller un-managed switch?

 

[cliffed]

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Are all the data cables running back to one managed switch?

Or is it feasible to run one CAT to each point and use a smaller un-managed switch?

cabling back to control panel for smart control on everything.

 

[cliffed]

25mm tubes with slight bends is fine but when you are getting to 90° fit adaptable boxes if you feel the pull is going to be difficult and placing stress on the cables.

That’s my worry,it will not be possible without pull in boxes,but these will not be accessible after,obviously.
Thinking trunking.

 

[cliffed]

They have no ceilings? Stupid question ignore that.

The designer thinks rather than go up to the limited ceiling space,then down again,he’d rather have a easier route(to him).

 

[Strima]

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cabling back to control panel for smart control on everything.

That's a bugger.

 

[davesparks]

I have recently seen architects specifying 5 amp round pin socket outlets for standard lamps, you go into a shop and try and get a standard lamp with a 5 amp plug on it...

5A is a little unusual as it is normally 2A sockets which are installed for lamps, but what’s the issue?

 

[westward10]

See plenty of them in hotel areas.

 

[davesparks]

Have you considered small flexible ducting? You could make long sweeping bends to make pulling cables easier.

 

[Squid]

Just run fibre, terminate to Cisco switch and bobs your relative........

 

[Deleted member 26818]

When I install data, it’s usual to run no more than 2 cables through 25mm tube.
Offices tend to have double data points, whereas dwellings will often have data and telephone points.

 

[Strima]

5A is a little unusual as it is normally 2A sockets which are installed for lamps, but what’s the issue?

How many places sell lamps with round pin plugs on?

 

[cliffed]

Just run fibre, terminate to Cisco switch and bobs your relative........

Sounds good I have a Aunt called Fanny

 

[davesparks]

How many places sell lamps with round pin plugs on?

Very few I would imagine, but what’s that got to do with it?
What would you do? Install 13A sockets on a lighting circuit?

 

[Strima]

Very few I would imagine, but what’s that got to do with it?
What would you do? Install 13A sockets on a lighting circuit?

What I’m trying to get at is the architects are specifying round pin sockets on ring or radial circuits solely for lighting use when in reality a very small percentage of people would use them. Why not just install standard socket outlets rather than restricting their use?

 

[mydigitalhome]

Normally if a home automation system/lighting controls are being utilised 5A light circuits are fairly standard install all taken back to din rail. Using 5A round pin sockets stops people trying to plug a hoover into it or other stupid stuff. If install is in floor suggest using dedicated underfloor metal trunking or tray with cover installed below UFH. make sure all cables are rated for 90deg maintain bending radius and segregation and test all cables before the floor screed is installed and all should go well. Use proper network tester like Fluke Networks or similar rather than just a continuity check for complete peace of mind. Completed loads of projects like that with no problems so far. Always install spare CAT cable especially for light switches, thermostats etc. Handy to cover customer changes at last minute. Sure it will go well.