socket in skirting board in new pub

[ben2012]

ive been lookin at a job and cant decide if this is ok or not, someone else has already put wiring in and i was just looking at something else at the time, but it got me thinking! its a solid floor so no access below and dressed stone with vaulted ceiling above so it looked like it would be difficult to get round! some timber has been fit to the wall and their is going to be some panelling fit to it and skirting at the bottom. now hes on about fitting metal boxes to the wall and then cutting the skirting round these and fitting brass sockets flush on the front. i know that its obviously not going to be 450mm but its not a private dwelling and the sockets would be high enough so as to allow a plug to fit in easily. any thoughts on this?

 

[netblindpaul]

Not upset.

The comment was not aimed at the post, but more the idiots that do work that are not competent.

We must not be aiming for compliance with the idiot, let Darwinian selection sort that out.

Comply with regs/best practice, yes, don't design for the idiot who is incompetent.

Don't put sockets on an RCD unless you have to, they are unreliable, at best, and can cause nuisance tripping.

Undertake best practice design so you can avoid them where possible.

 

[Adam W]

Not upset.

The comment was not aimed at the post, but more the idiots that do work that are not competent.

We must not be aiming for compliance with the idiot, let Darwinian selection sort that out.

Comply with regs/best practice, yes, don't design for the idiot who is incompetent.

Don't put sockets on an RCD unless you have to, they are unreliable, at best, and can cause nuisance tripping.

Undertake best practice design so you can avoid them where possible.

One of my old college tutors used to say "there's no such thing as 'nuisance tripping', it's called 'tripping', and if it causes a nuisance then you haven't designed the circuit properly".
I would say in somewhere like a pub there are certain risks you can't avoid, but you can reduce the effects of, eg you could put the socket for the quiz machine on a separate radial with it's own RCBO to the socket with the gambler on it, then when someone spills a pint on the quiz machine they don't get electrocuted to death (clumsy as they may have been) and the person playing the gambler doesn't lose all their money.
Again, behind the bar there are a lot of liquids flying around, but at the same time there is a need for electrical equipment such as fridges; rcd protection can reduce any risk. Likewise in the cellar where the floor will be cleaned with a stiff broom and a hose - you can't eliminate electricity completely, but there's no reason for the staff to get electrocuted for being careless - the chiller can be placed as far out of the way as possible, the sump pump and line cleaning pump plugged into commando sockets, and of course rcds can be a useful tool.