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TUT TUT , well its not just about BS7671 is it, come on people remember your days at the local tech college, its about adhering to the electrical craft principles we were all taught.
My tutors would be have a fit if they heard some of the comments going on here.
Practically IMO its not good for a circuit to be running over its CCC even if it only for a few seconds with big loads being plugged in untill its goes pop.
Then you could argue that being plunged in total darkness could warrant a C2 for safety reasons in some certain circumstances.
It would be a C3 for me all day long. We dont mix power with lighting circuits.
Power and lighting has been mixed for many years as far back as the 2A, 5A and 15A round pin sockets

A lot of the problem as previously mentioned lies with the lighting manufacturers who insist on supplying lighting kits for under cupboard or plinth lighting with 13A plug in adaptors, personally I would rather they supplied their kits with boxed transformers or drivers with a short flylead that could be terminated into a flex outlet plate or FCU but until that happens I feel we are stuck with what we have
 
I think the main reason for keeping them separate in the past was mixed disconnection times, 5 sec for the lighting and 0.4 sec for the socket outlets.
 
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I know, you can get adaptors for various light sockets... ES, BC, GU10 etc.... but my old Ethos test kit came with either a 13A lead, or 3 separate prongs (although got an official 16A lead when i was on the caravan park for testing the hook ups..)
 
Power and lighting has been mixed for many years as far back as the 2A, 5A and 15A round pin sockets

A lot of the problem as previously mentioned lies with the lighting manufacturers who insist on supplying lighting kits for under cupboard or plinth lighting with 13A plug in adaptors, personally I would rather they supplied their kits with boxed transformers or drivers with a short flylead that could be terminated into a flex outlet plate or FCU but until that happens I feel we are stuck with what we have
I consider these lighting, have wired many these switched at the door entrance for table lamps on lighting circuits or spured down with a FCU.
 
It's not that many decades back that bathrooms were commonly fitted with combined light/heater contraptions.
My mother still has one although the heater is duff. My father linked out the general pull switch and you controlled it from the pull cord at the light. Can't remember the pull sequence but maybe one pull heater, two pulls heater and light and three pulls just the light.
 
Yes we do, we commonly have smoke alarms on lighting circuits.
We also see cooker hoods with moulded plugs into single sockets fed off the lighting circuit

I see a C3 much like advisories on vehicle MOTs nobody wants them, especially unwarranted ones.
 
My mother still has one although the heater is duff. My father linked out the general pull switch and you controlled it from the pull cord at the light. Can't remember the pull sequence but maybe one pull heater, two pulls heater and light and three pulls just the light.

My parents had one until my father was tasked with redecorating the bathroom, a number of years back, and he 'upgraded' to a batten fitting. Never realised it was gone until I rewired the place and was sad it wasn't there to salvage, although don't remember the heater working after I was about 5 or 6 years old.
 
My mother still has one although the heater is duff. My father linked out the general pull switch and you controlled it from the pull cord at the light. Can't remember the pull sequence but maybe one pull heater, two pulls heater and light and three pulls just the light.
Ah, I found one of these in the bathroom of an elderly lady a couple of months back, when T'ing and I'ing for a board change. BC lampholder in the middle, and a circular element around it.

I didn't realise what it was initially, so gave the pull cord a few yanks and the light went off and on. Then after a while a strong smell of burning. The heater hadn't been used for yonks but still worked, and had collected a thick layer of dust on top of the reflector.
 

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