Some (probably) stupid questions about my house rewire

[MrsFletcher]

Hi everyone (wave)

Sorry if this is in the wrong section :crazy:

I am currently having my house "done up" and the electrician has just told me he has finished the wiring and is requesting payment.

Most of it looks OK (not that I would really know any different lol) but one of the girls I work with told me that the kitchen should now be on a separate circuit main switch in the electrical fuse box, she says there should be 1 fuse for the cooker and another for the plugs but the lights can stay on the same switch as the other downstairs lights. Just so you understand, she had her house required a few weeks ago and that's what they did at her house.

Anyway, my electrician hasn’t done any of that, the cooker and the plugs are just on the downstairs plugs fuse?

Also I have just noticed that he has ran wires up next to the water mains pipe they are not in a plastic runner thing nor are they nail clamped (?) to the wall. They are covered by a wooden panel though so you cant see it unless you take that off.

So I guess my question is, are these things right or wrong?

Oops, sorry just one more, what sort of certification should I expect to get? He tells me that it will just arrive in the post?

Thank you for your help :heart:

Tracy

 

[oldtimer]

Guys we are all discussing this yet Mrs Fletcher has yet still to reply to any of our posts ??????

 

[alarm man]

Guys we are all discussing this yet Mrs Fletcher has yet still to reply to any of our posts ??????

i hope it isnt one of those wind ups..some people..tut..

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I once had occasion to look at a re-wire conducted on behalf of a Local Authority (in 1994 I believe).
All new split load CU, all new cheap and nasty accessories replacing MK ones, and all new lamp holders.
Not one new piece of cable to be seen anywhere.

 

[MrsFletcher]

Hi all, sorry I have been busy with the old man recovering from spinal surgery and the children demanding all my time that why I am on at 11:00pm

Right, I live in a 3 bed detached, I was Quoted £3500 for a full rewire, no mention of leaving in any old wires as my husband told him, we are really worried about the lights upstairs that, wait for it, turn themselves on and off whenever they feel like it :6as it happens they dont do that anymore, so he fixed that) , we made sure he knew we wanted every wire out and replaced with new, included all switches, plugs etc...

The cooker has been spured of an existing plug, in fact we have found out he has spured off; the cooker, the lean to plugs and the lean to light as well as the rear security light all from one plug in the kitchen, thats what the grey wires are next to the pipes in the rather bad photo goto lol

The electrician came with the builder who was given to us by our neighbour and he is as shocked as we are about the turnout. The builder is saying this s the first time he has used this spark and wont be using him again, however the plumbing contractor tells us its his (the builders) son? All the building work (well almost all) is good just the odd thing like a big hole in the kitchen ceiling and the new shower leaks whenever its used lol

The guy is NICEIC as we have had the cert and its says part rewire but has no mention of old wiring? the NEW CU has no stickers on it other than what each switch does.

We did agree to move furniture for him and this we did, in fact he commented to me that we didnt need to do as much as we did as he just used the cellar to run the downstairs plugs and the upstairs was almost empty anyway? That is why we dont understand what he said to us?

Update

We have today come to an agreement as I offered him to attend my property with either a 3rd party electrician and or a rep from the NICEIC, he told me to err myself and if I was that bothered about his work I should just forget it! He has 2.5k of our money of which I dont think he deserves or at least another local electrician thinks he dosent as he has said he wants to pull it all out and start again? Im not sure its that bad but then what do I know?

We dont know what to do now, we have all had enough, its been going on for 2 months now and we just want o get the house decorated in time for Christmas and forget all about it, I think a new spark and a new builder to finish of the mess in the kitchen and bathroom and just put it down to bad luck

Out of interest, how much would you of charged?

And, of course, thank you ALL for your comments even the ones that dont believe me hehehehehe

 

[alarm man]

please dont tell me your hubby is a plumber who needs his heating fixed...sorry jason..

 

[JamesBrownLive]

The guy is NICEIC as we have had the cert and its says part rewire but has no mention of old wiring? the NEW CU has no stickers on it other than what each switch does.

Just a quickie..

What colour was the cert he gave you? Because if it's green, it means he's not actually with the NICEIC. Anyone and their uncle can buy green NICEIC certs :dead:

 

[Rappid]

I would complain to the NIC as his work does not comply with current regs. There should be stickers for circuit details, RCD test, next inspection and 2 different wiring colours.

 

[Des 56]

Pictures of the certificate,without his details, could be very informative

It may shed more light on the standard of the builders son ( we will leave the term electrician open for now) and the installation than you could appreciate

The info provided so far and if correct appears disturbing

 

[DurhamSparky]

what a shoddy mess...!! 3.5k is about a good price for a basic rewire! and i mean a full rewire of all circuits!!

complain to the NIC mrs fletcher!!

 

[electromonkey]

Where do you live Mrs F? Someone from on here may be able to take a look at the work and advise you.

 

[1shortcircuit]

The NICEIC will not be pleased to hear about one of their approved contractors carrying out shoddy work. Definitely follow this avenue, that is of course if you feel that you can trust them to re-enter your property?

 

[Engineer54]

The NICEIC will not be pleased to hear about one of their approved contractors carrying out shoddy work. Definitely follow this avenue, that is of course if you feel that you can trust them to re-enter your property?

Worth a go i suppose, but i suspect they will do little to nothing, apart from just going through the motions of being concerned.... Read of plenty of complaints to these people about what there members have done or haven't done, but no-one has seen any positive action being taken. That i would imagine, goes for all these so-called scheme providers, that profess there members have all been deemed ''competent''!!!

 

[Octopus]

Mrs Fletcher, if I were you you should google competent persons scheme and look up the sparky.

You should also ask him for his NICEIC number too.

Sounds like he's cut more corners than an F1 driver in a Grand Prix!

 

[malcolmsanford]

Hi all, sorry I have been busy with the old man recovering from spinal surgery and the children demanding all my time that why I am on at 11:00pm

Right, I live in a 3 bed detached, I was Quoted £3500 for a full rewire, no mention of leaving in any old wires as my husband told him, we are really worried about the lights upstairs that, wait for it, turn themselves on and off whenever they feel like it :6as it happens they dont do that anymore, so he fixed that) , we made sure he knew we wanted every wire out and replaced with new, included all switches, plugs etc...

The cooker has been spured of an existing plug, in fact we have found out he has spured off; the cooker, the lean to plugs and the lean to light as well as the rear security light all from one plug in the kitchen, thats what the grey wires are next to the pipes in the rather bad photo goto lol

The electrician came with the builder who was given to us by our neighbour and he is as shocked as we are about the turnout. The builder is saying this s the first time he has used this spark and wont be using him again, however the plumbing contractor tells us its his (the builders) son? All the building work (well almost all) is good just the odd thing like a big hole in the kitchen ceiling and the new shower leaks whenever its used lol

The guy is NICEIC as we have had the cert and its says part rewire but has no mention of old wiring? the NEW CU has no stickers on it other than what each switch does.

We did agree to move furniture for him and this we did, in fact he commented to me that we didnt need to do as much as we did as he just used the cellar to run the downstairs plugs and the upstairs was almost empty anyway? That is why we dont understand what he said to us?

Update

We have today come to an agreement as I offered him to attend my property with either a 3rd party electrician and or a rep from the NICEIC, he told me to err myself and if I was that bothered about his work I should just forget it! He has 2.5k of our money of which I dont think he deserves or at least another local electrician thinks he dosent as he has said he wants to pull it all out and start again? Im not sure its that bad but then what do I know?

We dont know what to do now, we have all had enough, its been going on for 2 months now and we just want o get the house decorated in time for Christmas and forget all about it, I think a new spark and a new builder to finish of the mess in the kitchen and bathroom and just put it down to bad luck

Out of interest, how much would you of charged?

And, of course, thank you ALL for your comments even the ones that dont believe me hehehehehe

Before you contemplate the rip it all out and start again method please do as some of the lads advised and post your town or area and I'm sure one of the guys will be more than glad to help out.

Though the install looks a mess the cables themselves look in good nick and a simple test will prove if they are or not, and by getting a lad off here he will advise you honestly what is needed to be done.

The lights going on/off by themselves was most likely just a loose connection and nothing to do with the condition of the wire.

As you say you have held back 1k I'm sure you will get a good PIR done, the majority of the tidy/remedial work done for that, perhaps less.

At least you know that you you will get a good job, honestly done and good advise.

 

[trev]

If he is NICEIC registered he will be listed as a domestic installer or an approved contractor on their website. It'll take no more than 10 minutes to prove or disprove that. If it turns out he is not registered then I'd yell to them and building control who should (note I didn't say would) take action against him.
Use the £1000 that you didn't pay him to get the place inspected and tested and that should put your mind finally at ease.
T'would be interesting to see how this one pans out