Spark gone missing after EICR and no report

[Michaelwgroves]

I've been called by a client to fix a problem exposed by EICR.
Spark put new light and fan in shower, also moved shower switch above bathroom door. Customer wanted EICR, but spark got his mate to do as he can't do EICR. So I'm suspicious he's not part of CPS, below might make you think the same.
Anyway, second spark come round and did stuff, I'm not sure what. 1st Spark never forwarded EICR and just mentioned a short on ring. After a few months customer got fed up chasing and called me.
While I was there I had a quick look, I can see 118 ohms across live and neutral. Turns out boiler is run off kitchen ring in fused spur and this was reason for reading. After post on plumbers forum apparently this is normal.

Anyway, while I was there I observed a shower switch above ground floor bathroom door. I also observed a shower pull switch in the 1st Floor bathroom. So nothing suspicious there...……..
Customer asked if I could remove pull switch in 1st Floor as not used. Stuck my head in and has electric shower. Sorry no I says, you need this it must be in use. No says customer switch for 1st Floor bathroom is above Ground Floor bathroom. Turns out Ground Floor shower is mains fed, no electric.
Seems mad as this is a new switch down stairs. I've suggested I move switch back upstairs which is very quick job. Customer agrees.
However, whilst this seems like a crazy place to put a shower switch, in reality it's not unsafe. But I assume there is a reg that says switch must be in close proximity to shower?

This is as much I want to get it off my chest as a question.

 

[Pete999]

I've been called by a client to fix a problem exposed by EICR.
Spark put new light and fan in shower, also moved shower switch above bathroom door. Customer wanted EICR, but spark got his mate to do as he can't do EICR. So I'm suspicious he's not part of CPS, below might make you think the same.
Anyway, second spark come round and did stuff, I'm not sure what. 1st Spark never forwarded EICR and just mentioned a short on ring. After a few months customer got fed up chasing and called me.
While I was there I had a quick look, I can see 118 ohms across live and neutral. Turns out boiler is run off kitchen ring in fused spur and this was reason for reading. After post on plumbers forum apparently this is normal.

Anyway, while I was there I observed a shower switch above ground floor bathroom door. I also observed a shower pull switch in the 1st Floor bathroom. So nothing suspicious there...……..
Customer asked if I could remove pull switch in 1st Floor as not used. Stuck my head in and has electric shower. Sorry no I says, you need this it must be in use. No says customer switch for 1st Floor bathroom is above Ground Floor bathroom. Turns out Ground Floor shower is mains fed, no electric.
Seems mad as this is a new switch down stairs. I've suggested I move switch back upstairs which is very quick job. Customer agrees.
However, whilst this seems like a crazy place to put a shower switch, in reality it's not unsafe. But I assume there is a reg that says switch must be in close proximity to shower?

This is as much I want to get it off my chest as a question.

Looks like this client of yours has had his pants pulled down by Matey the " Electrician"

 

[Dillb]

All that to ask about the location of a shower pull cord? In reply to the question section 701 of BS7671 covers the location of electrical accessories in rooms with a bath or shower in it.

 

[Octopus]

There is no requirement to be a member of a CPS to do EICRs

 

[Michaelwgroves]

There is no requirement to be a member of a CPS to do EICRs

Ah, good point, that completely passed me by.

 

[Michaelwgroves]

All that to ask about the location of a shower pull cord? In reply to the question section 701 of BS7671 covers the location of electrical accessories in rooms with a bath or shower in it.

I text like I talk...………...

 

[GeorgeCooke]

But I assume there is a reg that says switch must be in close proximity to shower?

This is as much I want to get it off my chest as a question.

No. There is no requirement for a shower to have an isolation switch. It can be isolated at the CU after all.

 

[Octopus]

No. There is no requirement for a shower to have an isolation switch. It can be isolated at the CU after all.

But .... MI s normally ask for them, and on dual boards not having an isolation switch isn't advised

 

[bigspark17]

Looks like this client of yours has had his pants pulled down by Matey the " Electrician"

So no advise for the OP then? Just a pointless comment.

 

[bigspark17]

Have you carried out many eicrs? Why would you test L-L on a ring final? L&N -earth (with cpc connected to earth bar) is only required IR test imo on eicr.
No isolator atall on shower is a c2 for me its cowboyish, provides no local isolation & doesnt comply with MI.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

[QUOTE="Michaelwgroves, post: 1454180, member: 68265"

But I assume there is a reg that says switch must be in close proximity to shower?

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Sorry to be blunt but EICR's require a considerable level of experience and knowledge, you do not seem to me to have the required knowledge to be advising the client on such matters. Seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Have you carried out many eicrs? Why would you test L-L on a ring final? L&N -earth (with cpc connected to earth bar) is only required IR test imo on eicr.
No isolator atall on shower is a c2 for me its cowboyish, provides no local isolation & doesnt comply with MI.

Cant see why it would be potentially dangerous? Can you give an explanation?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The OP wasn’t conducting an EICR.
He was rectifying faults found on an EICR.
If I were to have an Isoltor for a shower, I think I would prefer it to be outside the shower it corresponds with, rather than outside a different shower.

 

[Cadgey123]

Have you carried out many eicrs? Why would you test L-L on a ring final? L&N -earth (with cpc connected to earth bar) is only required IR test imo on eicr.
No isolator atall on shower is a c2 for me its cowboyish, provides no local isolation & doesnt comply with MI.

It’s not a C2

 

[GeorgeCooke]

But .... MI s normally ask for them, and on dual boards not having an isolation switch isn't advised

MIs are guidance only, and don't have to be followed, especially when they are wrong.